Both your Penny Blacks are of value. The PL one is a 4 margin plate 6 I think... a slightly better scan or photo would confirm. I think there might be slight surface scuffing at the bottom so that might reduce the value. Also it could be a little "grubby" but that might be the result of the lighting. If in good condition, you are looking at £100 plus. The KB stamp is a better looker but spoiled by the left and right sides being "frayed". Looks like plate 2 to me. Value in my view would be 40- 60 pounds on a good day.
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