And The Winner Of The Understatement Of The Year Goes To...

Kind of hard to see what the seller is referring to in his extensive lot description.



Jim

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-STAMP-P...AOSwlxhZfPDi

I wouldn't pay money for that but if I owned it I wouldn't throw it away.

Hi,

Just curious, but why?

It's not even a real PR2; it's a German facsimile.

If it was completely undamaged, it would cost you maybe $10.

Why would you keep it?

Jim

Hi, please explain "its not even a real PR2 its a German facsimile" how do you determine this?

Hi,

Please note that the real stamps were issued perforated.

This copy has pseudo-perforations on the right side, meaning that small holes were introduced into the forged design, to simulate real perforations. It is otherwise actually imperforated, which makes it a bogus/fake stamp.

It therefore has minimal, to no, value.

This is in addition to the differences in the design from the legitimate design, which I'd be happy to illustrate, if you'd like.

Jim

This is a genuine PR2, in this case on pelure paper.

Please note the design differences between this copy and the ebay lot.

Specifically, the real stamp has horizontal lines in the vignette background that are sharp and clear, while in forgeries/facsimilies, the lines are "muddled" and less clear.

Jim

Now come on Jim, tell the truth. The first stamp is really a damaged version of the extremely rare imperforate variety (less than 5 copies known) that the government released in secret and didn't tell anybody. Scott #PR2-bs.

Revhound,

Nope, the example offered is the even-rarer, hypothetically known to exist, "shark-bitten" variety, of which there are negative examples known to exist in this time-space continuum.

Meaning, if you found one, you wouldn't actually have one, you would still owe one to the universe.

Jim

p.s. Ich sprechen geek!

I love how someone took a piece of a three cent banknote to patch a small part of the bottom corner. As if that really helps.

So some time ago I posted this Newspaper Stamp, no one mentioned whether is was a fake or real example.

But now maybe you can tell for me?

So is it just a fake, or an actual example of PR2.

Yes, I know the stamp in question is a very poor example, bad condition, especially with the big blue cancel.

Thanks in advance

Hi,




One method to determine genuineness is to use a magnifying glass and look at the lines.

If they are broken or incomplete or fuzzy here and there, then it's a fake.

The quality of the scan you posted is too low to determine whether it's a fake or not.

Jim

p.s. This site might be of interest:

http://unicornhall.com/NewsPaperStamps/index.htm

I wouldn't say it's worthless... I like fakes and forgeries and have several labeled as such in my collection. I think it's a neat addition to a collection and adds a little "flavor". But that's just my opinion.

Having said that, I'd also say that I don't go out of my way to buy them.

Jeff

Wow, now I'm really confused on how to scan to provide acceptable images. I followed the instructions from another posting, specific R85d recent post.

You say the quality of the scan is too low, What do I have to do to increase the quality, and still be under either the 300 or 200 kb as the instructions say? I would really like to provide quality scans.

Thankds

Hi,

In the case of the silk paper and this newspaper stamp, "the devil is in the details" (or whatever the phrase is).

I would scan at a high resolution (600 dpi should be fine), but only the area in question.

For example, just the (what appears to be) single silk thread, and similarly a portion of the vignette background lines.

No need to scan the entire stamp, just the area of interest.

The tiny bank note text at the bottom of the newspaper stamp is another area where genuine stamps can be determined from fakes; you might want to scan a portion of that text as well.

Jim

This 600 dpi closeup of the vignette and background is only 59Kb in size.

It should clearly illustrate what the lines should look like on genuine newspaper stamps.



Jim

Thank you, will try it later this afternoon, got to deal with kids now. Hey do you want some great kids?

Dave