L. T. Hoyt On R12c Bank Check (Orange)

Hi Stampmaster,

I think that some of the responses in this topic to what you might do with your stamp come from those, like myself I guess, that are so used to seeing stamps regularly offered on ebay and other sites, with large pieces missing, or that are obviously fake, or that have undescribed faults, and are offered at ridiculous prices by sellers with clearly no moral compass at all, and when someone comes along and refuses to do likewise in the interest of honesty and integrity, it is flummoxing.

If only others felt as you do, us collectors would have far less faulty stamps to deal with.

In this case though, I think we all appreciate you wanting to not taint your good name, but the value of your stamp might exceed the principal that drives your intentions.

I am positive that you will receive no negative ramification from the party interested in your stamp in this post, should you eventually decide to part with it.

After all, you now have a public, semi-permanent record that absolves you of any intention to cheat the other party.



Just my two cents.

Jim

I have more than a few revenue stamps with what I call a circle hand stamp. As far as the name Hoyt is concerned I can't say exactly what type of a business it was. The last name Hoyt was pretty popular back in the civil war. There was a Hoyt grocery out of Chicago, a Hoyt furniture company I can't remember where and another Hoyt company in New York that made carriages. I don't remember the full names and don't even know why I remember this much. I don't know if it adds to the value to have this type of cancellation. I just collect them but never bothered to really get into them. I have a lot of out of business goal stamps on my revenues. When you think of it this is pretty normal since few companies are probably still aroumd after 150 years.

Don't care what you do with it, it's your stamp.

The research question is complicated by the fact that Hoyt is a common surname. It may have been HOYT, Lumas Tuttle, b. 28 Sep 1784, d. 4 Jun 1877. Apparently he was a tanner and shoemaker for an extraordinarily long time, over 70 years, in Vermont. He also fought in the War of 1812. With such a long-lived business he could have had a need for a dated handstamp for purposes in his business other than revenue stamps, and then found it convenient to use when war taxes were introduced.

Try Google searches on "lumas tuttle hoyt".

Yes there was a company called LT Hoyt Boots and Shoes in business during this time period. There were a lot of Hoyts in the tanning business.

Hi,

I need the date for my calendar collection, and I want the stamp - easy like that! Let me know what you want for it and it will find a happy and proud home!

You might be interested in seeing another unsavory copy that is a close cousin to yours. It also resides quite happily in my calendar collection and I am very happy to have it, just as I would be very happy to include your copy:

Hi Mkfarm, in addition to L. T. Hoyt Boots and Shoes Business, I've located two other possible items. There was a Lt. L. T. Hoyt that served with the Wis. forces during the civil war. Also there was a L. T. Hoyt that was a banker and stock broker also during this time period.

I'm doing more research, thanks for you outstanding help, you are top drawer in my book. Doubt if any of these three Hoyt are connected or the same person or maybe the same family, will just have to wait and see what I can find out.

I like researching cancels, its fun and sometimes I strike it rich with information, and at other times it difficult or next to impossible. I have one example of a research item that finally took me about one year to find good information on it. But found pictures and lots of background information on the 1898 Revenue Stamp.

Again, thanks for your outstanding research efforts.

StateRevs, I'm onto researching this cancel, and if I get the information to confirm this cancel, then I'll be keeping it. But will keep you in mind, as you are the only one that has shown real interest, honest interest in having this stamp in your special collection.

Can you tell me more about your collection, I always like hearing about different ways to collect.

David Thompson (Stampmaster)
MSGT, USAF, RETIRED

That is a lovely SON cancel. Not sure I see the problem with the stamp itself other than a pulled perf on the right.

Seriously? I mean SERIOUSLY?

FFS.

Stampmaster,
See the 4th post..

Hi all

I'm not sick over this situation. I'm sorry to almost all posters.

Especially sorry to MkFarm and StateRevs, stop your research efforts.

One of the posters has booted me from bidding on the posters ebay listing. He has a site of his own, and we used to email back and forth about stamps, now he says he will not communicate anymore about interesting stamps that both of us are interested in.

Is this really the action of the stamp collector.

I've made an offering to the poster in question, and willing to trade the poster this stamp.

All I ever wanted was to seek any members who wanted to take part in a research effort if they wanted to!

I hope no one else thinks badly with the poster in question, I think the poster in question just over reacted!

Again, sorry to Mkfarm and StateRevs who showed real interest.

In his email to me he used word(s) that I will not repeat.

Again, sorry for this whole affair. Hope none of the other posters do not think badly of me or the poster in question.

DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED

Nope, sorry, I don't have the time or patience to deal with people playing games at my expense. Do what you want with the stamp; shred it if you wish. I'm done with the whole mess.

Also, lest anyone fall for the implication that I used profanity in my communications, I did not.

As I privately mentioned to other parties via email, there are some games being played here, and not by me.

StampMaster.

To answer your question about a calendar collection, it is basically attempting to fill a calendar using used stamps by day.

Some people have 12 pages (Jan - Dec) and collect by day, without worrying about the year in the canx.

Those of us without common sense collect by day and year. My collection goes from 1862 - 1902 and I only use revenue stamps.

Here is a page from the early portion with 1st series stamps:



Here is a page from my Battleship portion:



I am after the date, not a perfect stamp. Thins, pulled perfs, closed tears, missing corners, trimmed perfs are not show stoppers as I am after the canx, not the stamp.

As you have seen several times in this thread, earlier canx (1862) are significantly more difficult to find.

PS; What AFSC were you?

I think this thread has run its course; lets all move on.
Don