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L. T. Hoyt On R12c Bank Check (Orange)

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Posted 08/02/2017   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wondering if anyone has information on the stamp in question here with cancel "L. T. Hoyt", no location in regards to this stamp. Stamp is only fair condition, might not be worth keeping it.

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Posted 08/02/2017   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi; I beleive it is company name or individual with his own hand stamp,for proof of payment for whatever the stamp was stuck onto.
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Posted 08/02/2017   03:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rwoodennickel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty early canx, should be a keeper.
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Posted 08/02/2017   06:49 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely worth keeping, IMO. That's a very early example of a handstamp cancel. If you do decide to dispose of it/trade it, please let me know.
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Posted 08/02/2017   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As revenuecollector said, definitely keep it for the cancel and the Nov. 1862 date.
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Posted 08/02/2017   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all thanks for inputs.

Condition is not up to my standard, and understand its a keeper because of cancel and date. But because of the condition, can't show you what it looks like when I used the water marking process, real bad.

I cannot trade it away, because it does not warrant anything in trade.

But thanks to all, especially for possible research options, that is what I really was interested. If research leads to something interesting, then I'll keep it and write it up, otherwise just junk it off.

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Posted 08/02/2017   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Obviously it is worth something in trade, revenuecollector has already said so.
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Posted 08/02/2017   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

When I make a trade, it has to be in good condition.

Years I made a trade, and the trader later regretted the trade even tho I informed him the stamp in question was not even in good condition. He felt he was taken advantage of. Since I had already traded off what was the original trade was, I could not undo the trade, or make him happy.

I had no idea this trade would go bad, as I cannot see the future, I will not trade anything in bad condition period.

But thanks for your words.

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Posted 08/02/2017   2:52 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But condition is not a factor in this case, as I know full well the stamp might be faulty. I would want it for the cancel. Please do NOT junk this stamp just based upon principle.

You need to understand that people that collect cancels, postal history, plate varieties, or other non-standard types of material, are not as critically focused on condition.
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Posted 08/02/2017   2:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are worried that he might feel taken advantage of, send it to him as a gift, and then make a trade for something else.
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Posted 08/02/2017   3:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or simply ask him to put in writing (like in his post) the fact that he understands there are condition issues.
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Posted 08/02/2017   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, been researching this cancel, might have or might not found information on L. T. Hoyt. Still researching, so until I decide whether or not that I'm onto the correct researched information, the stamp in question is on hold pending future disposition.

If I decide to dispose of it, it will be on my own terms.

Most likely I'll just include it in a box that I take to the local auction house.

But hope other members would try researching "L. T. Hoyt" and let me know what they find. After all two or more people searching might find some of interest.

Again, thanks to all
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Posted 08/02/2017   4:31 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfreakingbelievable.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think we were being trolled.
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Posted 08/02/2017   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Stampmaster,

I'm trying to understand the flow of this topic, and I think that I'm a little confused, maybe.

You have a 155 year old stamp with a neat, early cancel, but the stamp apparently has some faults of some kind.

You have several collectors expressing interest in your stamp, even with the faults. They have all suggested that the stamp not be destroyed.

You have had some bad experiences in the past with transactions where the product wasn't first rate, at least according to some.

So you would rather dispose of your stamp entirely, if you can't figure out the cancel name, rather than sell or trade or give your stamp to another collector, who has already accepted that the stamp has faults?

Is this all accurate?

Jim
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Posted 08/02/2017   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea what the term "trolled" means, but guessing its not good!

All my answers and responses have been honest.

I think I'm due something to the effect you are sorry for this latest response.

I do not want to send note to staff!

Again, research information is what I'm really looking for.

David Thompson (Stampmaster)
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Posted 08/02/2017   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
James Drummond, excuse my missing your response. After reading the response previous to your I felt misunderstood.

I will dispose of this stamp on my own terms. I understand the kind offers of others, but just do not want to take the chance of another owner who might or might not feel cheated by me. My name is very important to me, perhaps this is an old way of looking at things, but my name is paramount to me in all dealing!

You are accurate, but would only dispose of it in a box of other as is stamps at the local auction.

That is how I would dispose of the stamp in question, if my research efforts do not return good results.

Thanks
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