Asking For Tips On How To Arrange Particular Stamps

Hello
I' like to know how you deal with these kinds of stamps:

1) Stamps as in the first image - do you place them each in its country, or keep them seperately in a small album just for these?
I know that the best option is to get two set and do both options, but if you don't have two sets?

2) Joint issues as in the second image - if you don't have 2 sets, do you place a note by the stamp?

3) Foreign post office - do you place them with the office owner country or with the hosting country?

4) Occupation stamps - do you place them with the occupying country or the occupied country?
I chose to place them with the occupied ountry, so Epirus goes with Albania and not Greece, unless it's a general occupation stamp, like the German "generalgouvernement" stamps in WWII, which I placed with Germany.

Hi.

Whether I would keep them all together would depend on the nature of my collection. I have a printed Commomwealth album, and so each stamp has to go in the relevant country. However if I did not have a Commonealth album, or had my own pages, I would keep them all together as I think they are stronger as a set than having just one stamp immersed in each country's regular issues. (They're called omnibus issues, by the way. You can build up a section just for omnibus sets - there are quite a few.)

Foreign PO and occupation, I would always go for the 'host' country, as I think that's where they were sold and used. I would reconsider if it were a specialised collection and they were thematically relevant to the occupier. I would put Generalgouvernement in Poland - it's part of that country's philatelic past more so than Germany.

Worldwide collector:
I follow the Scott regime, to the letter, that way I never get lost.

1) Worldwide dictates I collect in Country specific.

As Ringo suggests they can be collected by "Omnibus" ...Stanley Gibbons have these catalogued and enumerated at the back of their Specialised catalogues.

I get around this chicane, by a naming convention on my digital scans,

for example I do a Worldwide seach of my database "Shakespeare Omnibus"

Follow the regime you feel comfortable with, as long as you add notes
in your album, of how you are working with these.

Very much a matter of personal preference - and also how many you have. I place them with individual countries. I dislike omnibus issues, and wouldn't want a whole mass of identical philatelic creation together. Others obviously prefer grouping, as shiwn by the steady stream of omnibus collections that show up in auction catalogues. Occupations I tend to put with the country in which I have an interest. Thus, as I have no interest in German stamps, French occupations of parts of Germany are at the back of my French collection, as are any Prussian/German occupations of France.

Enjoy, whichever you choose.

It is interesting to hear your choices.
I'm using stock books, so I'm free to collect the way I see my collection, not by the vision of the printed album maker.
Was generalgouvernement used only in Polland?If not, placing it there might change a bit my philatelic history.
Omnibus sets and joint issues, if I don't point them out in some way, might lose some of the stamp meaning, I think.

1) The only way I would collect two sets would be to have one mint, one used. Free-form style in stockbooks, I would keep an omnibus set together. If not complete, the empty spaces I leave would tell me what I needed. For a printed album, I would place them under the separate countries so as not to have blank pages in the 1960s for many British Commonwealth countries.

2) Similar to above.

3)Most worldwide catalogs generally list these under the issuing country, so I would follow that scheme.

4)Catalogs generally list these under country where used, the occupied country, so I would follow that scheme.

If you bother at all with cancels, you will find cancels of towns no longer in the issuing country (if that still exists). I'd still put them under the issuing country, but if you don't collect that, you could still put it under the country where the town exists now.

Generalgouvernment would be under Poland in most worldwide catalogs, but is an area that does not necessarily coincide with Polish borders then or now.

Where would you place WWII German stamps with the overprint "ostland"? Under USSR?

I predominantly collect US but still have a few German stamps, my daughter also collects German stamps. We would tend to put German occupation/occupied territories stamps in like grouped in the German album, treated like a separate back of the book or territorial issue. However, they would fit perfectly well in albums of those individual countries as well if you also collect them.

Like many things in stamp collecting I think it's all a matter of the collector's personal preference.

Jeff

There is really no right or wrong way to order your collection. I'd select a method that seems best to you. As long as you are preserving the condition of the stamps and enjoying the result, I would say you have ordered them correctly.

I know and accept that each chooses his own way, yet it is always good to learn from others.
If some collectors chose to place the German "generalgouvernement" with Poland, even though it wasn't used only there, I wondered, by that logic, where "Ostland" should go, being used in the Baltics and part of Poland. Maybe it should go with USSR, since all those countries belonged there at the time.

Steiner Page 52.

Thanks, Rod.
Isn't Steiner's info incomplete? I read that they were used at east Poland too.

Rob Roy, you are correct. They were also intended for use in "Weissruthenian" in northwestern Soviet Union. Below is a registered cover from Minsk, sent by "Voormann" of the Business Alliance of White Ruthenia. Cover was mailed on May 19, 1944 and has the postmark of the "Deutsche Dienstpost Ostland", a separate postal system for the German occupiers.

You can find these stamps with German town cancels, indicating they were tolerated for use there.

Thanks for the detailed info. It feels great to learn new things here.