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The Stamps Of Madagascar : On Album Pages.

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Posted 08/18/2017   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



1959
Steiner Page 1.



1960
Steiner Page 2.



1987 Sc#805 Souvenir Sheet : Calgary.

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Posted 07/30/2018   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Unknown.
I am assuming "Printers waste" until further information falling.

Would be Sc#525



Would be Sc# C165.

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Posted 07/30/2018   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I'd guess these are "épreuves de luxe", presentation items as opposed to proofs or printer's waste.

France, Monaco and many other francophone countries have issued these.
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Posted 07/30/2018   06:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right, thank you very much Nigel,
not come across that expression before.

From Google:

Luxury proofs, most of the issued stamps, were printed from 1923 to 1998 by the Postal Administration.
These proofs consist of a sheet in the centre of which the stamp or stamps are printed in their exact color, but not serrated .
These slips officially reserved for high-ranking state officials and some high-ranking Post Office officials are highly sought after by collectors (circulation = about 250 to 300 copies).
From 1992, the luxury events were replaced by non-serrated sheets with rubber.
These leaflets, in addition to the gummed back, are distinguished from the luxury events by the presence of a legend printed under the figurine.

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Posted 07/30/2018   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

1896
Steiner Page 3.



1908
Steiner Page 6.

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Posted 07/30/2018   06:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

These I had down as Printers Waste,
One can see the difference in the articles.

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Posted 07/30/2018   07:29 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not necessarily. Most of the ex-French colonies issued certain of their stamps in imperforated form. I don't know whether Yvert's Francophone Africa catalogue may give a little more information.
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Posted 07/30/2018   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FOURNIER FORGERIES
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Posted 07/30/2018   1:42 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FT - how do the Fournier and Hirshberger forgeries differ? Aside from the cruder design than the originals, the Hirshbergers, I think, reverse their perf measurements. Is this true of Fournier too?
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Posted 07/30/2018   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GEO---Not sure what the Hirshberger forgeries look like .The FOURNIER has the perforations reversed . The design is very good and difficult to tell the difference ,Fournier wasn't so detail on the hand that holds the pole and a few other details .
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Posted 07/30/2018   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Not necessarily. Most of the ex-French colonies issued certain of their stamps in imperforated form.


Right. Thank you.

Nice page FT, time to check my perforations.
No idea they existed.

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Posted 07/30/2018   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

1912
Steiner Page 8.



1937
Steiner Page 17.

Note: Previous caretaker hinged incorrectly (Please don't lick hinges)
The dent from the wet hinge ruins the article.

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Posted 07/30/2018   11:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Greaden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand that Hirschberger worked for Fournier and actually printed the forgeries of the groupe type. Both names refer to the same set of forgeries.
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Posted 07/31/2018   01:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Greaden ,first your spelling is correct ,I had it wrong . It is HIRSCHBERGER not Hirshberger. It is not clear if he worked for Fournier or purchased his inventory but as you say it is the stamps .
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Posted 07/31/2018   01:26 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FT/Greaden - thank you - thought I had another forger to worry about.
Rod - aside from the perfs, the stamp forgeries site has some real/fake examples if you flick through a few colonies. Some of the differences - cornucopia, hand on staff etc - can be a bit fiddly for those of us with declining eyesight.
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Posted 07/31/2018   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mirman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

Thanks for sharing your pages. Really love page 3 as I collect used only and all stamps shown have a postal cancel and these are often much harder to obtain than mint stamps.
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