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Posted 09/01/2017   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add HTx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello All

Below are some stamps I need various types of help with.

First and Second stamps I can't find. They don't appear to be postal.
Any opinions as to what their propose might have been. ?

Third group has some holes punched through them. What might that be ?

Fourth group.........Is one of these a 'Prus bl' color ?

Thanks
htx





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Posted 09/02/2017   03:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

First stamp I do not know looks part of a historic "cinderella" series. (not a stamp)

Second stamp an advertising cinderella for a Pharmacie.

The prussian blue question will be impossible to answer, A scan will always "change" the actual color of the stamp.

About the stamps with holes. High value stamps of the German Empire on bulletins were a often/always punched to prefend theft or the stamps to be used again. Example shown below.










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Posted 09/02/2017   12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Bismarck cinderella is part of a large series of portraits of European leaders, royalty, composers, and other famous individuals, probably dating from 1900-'10. I believe these are German promotional labels, given away with the purchase of a product such as coffee, or cigarettes. So, if you bought a package of coffee, you would also get a collectible label in the packaging.

I have seen several different types. Yours is finely lithographed, with no perforations between the artwork and the tablet. There is also an engraved series ( see Wagner below) which is perforated above the tablet. My recollection is that there are similar French labels, but I don't have any of these.

Finding specific information such as printer or producer is very difficult with cinderellas.

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Posted 09/02/2017   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HTx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Johan Buvelot for your helpful reply.

You are correct...a pharmacy.....I see it now.

So the hole punch was part of the cancel. I assume their value is worthless due to a hole in the middle of the stamp ?


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Posted 09/02/2017   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Little link too something like your Central Apotheke "Schutzmarke" label.(no. 593)
http://data.legilux.public.lu/file/...2-fr-pdf.pdf
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Posted 09/02/2017   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HTx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks bookbndrbob,...... good information.
my Bismarck portrait looks ok from the front but has a diagonal crease along the back.

Thank you perf12,....... now I know who's portraite that is. ... Samuel Hahnemann

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Posted 09/02/2017   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love the Bismarck Cinderella. The "kitschy" scene of Bismarck at the forge and Germania's shield ("We Germans fear God, but nothing else in the world") rivals the American oil paintings of George Washington and the cherry tree.
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Posted 09/02/2017   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, In regard to your question:

No the stamp is not worthless. The hole does not make any difference to the value. The hole is part of the philatelistic story of this stamp.

Johan.
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Posted 09/05/2017   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HTx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have some follow up information on the Apothecary stamp:
from Dr. Schwabe Company;

"I have spoken with my colleagues and they informed that this sticker was an evidence to prove that the medicine was from us. We used them until 1930, attached you find a copy of our price list dated 1910. You will find a picture of it."

I cant' post the photo as it arrived in a pdf form. But the picture shows the head of Samuel Hahnemann looking to the right ( instead of to the left as mine above). The stamp itself was pasted onto the small bottle of medicine. There is also a similar size bottle with another photo of Dr. Schwabe himself. So there would be two stamps to the set.

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Posted 09/05/2017   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I cant' post the photo as it arrived in a pdf form.


Just open the desired page in the Pdf, and do a "print screen"
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