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Posted 09/04/2017   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



Is this a proof or essay?
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If it's on an envelope it's not a traditional proof or essay, but it's nice whatever it is. I note that it appears identical to the central feature on Type C stamped revenue paper, except for the wording, so at a minimum it's evidence of other use of an engraved die that was used or incorporated into a revenue paper design.
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Thank you for that information. It is on a "baby" envelope that I came upon in a auction box lot.
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Could you show the reverse side of the envelope, please?
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This is a Lockwood & Co. postal stationery essay prepared circa 1874. It is an essay of the Type C revenue stamped paper imprint (listed in the Scott Specialized with the RN-C prefix) and is listed in George Turner's "Essays and Proofs of United States Internal Revenue Stamps" Turner noted that it is (or at least was) Thorpe #800.
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Turner lists the essay in the following colors:
Brown on white
Brown on canary
Green on amber
Red on amber

the catalog value (in 1974) was $15
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Thank you all so much for sharing your knowledge. Amazing!
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Yes...enjoyed this thread.
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This, although printed on an envelope of the period, is not listed in the Catalog of United States Stamped Envelope Essays and Proofs. The closet reference to Thorpe 800 in the cross-index listing is 801, which is a currency envelope which does not resemble this one.

I would go with the revenue information provided spqr provided.

Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Listed on page 343 of the UPSS Essay and Proof Catalog of 2003.
1874 Lockwood and Company; shown to verify their existence but not believed to be essays for US postal stationery.
Valued at $35.00
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Jobi01 - Many thanks for that info. It is quite beautiful. I may have found a new area to collect. Not that I need yet another one.
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