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Posted 09/05/2017   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate watermarks however they are very easy for people to take them off so it really for the most part doesn't protect the image from being used. Not sure where your safeguarding your image unless your actually printing it on the stamp. Lol hey each there own on the watermark.

Nice stamp, clean and with a appealing centering. I don't know much about this stamp so without researching I can't add too much. I personally do not see a double transfer. The bottom of the stamp looks weird and takes away some of what I think is nice with this stamp. I want make out the cancel so not sure if that adds anything, except I like that it is light. PERF 12 talked about other things I see. I'm not sure what caused these. However it does appear to have a darker shading under the words Series of 1892 too.

Thanks for the thinking project today.
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Posted 09/05/2017   1:13 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can picture somebody calling this some sort of double impression but I am in the heavily-inked-and-then-slightly-smeared-printing camp.
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Posted 09/05/2017   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jim, what you are referring to is what used to be called, and I think still a good description as "Ink Pull".

But blurred is just as good also.

To me a double transfer is when an impression which was entered out of alignment, and for some reason not completely removed from the plate before a new impression is laid down, which then remains the remnants of the first impression pick up ink and reproduce their image along with the new impression.

A double transfers do not creates new lines or shapes. The double transfer is the original impression! Perhaps you are referring to the second impression?

I've rescanned the image to show both left and right figures, but I fear the enlarged images will be too blurred to determine what the requestor thinks it is.

Stampmaster


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Posted 09/05/2017   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi sinclair2010, I think your guess is pretty darn close to what I think it is!

Well done sinclair2010!

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Posted 09/05/2017   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely not a double impression. Far too many clear white spaces with no evidence of doubling of the printing at all. Some of the other thoughts are still possible but need a much better image, but not that thought.
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Posted 09/05/2017   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree totallly not a double impression.

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Posted 09/05/2017   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampmaster,

I don't know about the rest here, but I am a little confused by your posts.

You seem to be saying that your stamp is a double impression:


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I think your guess is pretty darn close to what I think it is!


and then you say that it isn't:


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I agree totally not a double impression


Which one is it?


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double transfers do not creates new lines or shapes


Sorry, but yes they do. A double transfer is defined as:


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The condition of a transfer on a plate that shows evidence of a duplication of all or a portion of the design.


This is from the introduction section of the Scott Specialized catalog.

A double impression is completely different from a double transfer.

I'm afraid that, in my opinion at least, your stamp is simply poorly inked; it is neither a double impression or a double transfer.

However, this opinion is based on the image that you presented; a higher resolution image may change that.

Jim
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Posted 09/05/2017   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jim, sorry for confusion, one finger typing is difficult at times. My finger and brain are not always in touch with each other.

Let me try again.

I was agreeing with Revcollector who said "not a double impression", I responded "I agree totally not a double impression"

I have never called this a double transfer, or double impression!

Perhaps I think your confused what sinclair2010 said "I can picture somebody calling this some sort of double impression but I am in the heavily-inked-and-then-slightly-smeared-printing camp."! I replied to Sinclair2010, I should have said I agree as its heavly inked and then smeared printing. I think the correct term is ink pull, but same thing as smeared.

Hope you are no longer confused?

Repeat, I've never said it is a double transfer, nor a double impression. If I did, then I was wrong, did not mean to infer this.

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Posted 09/05/2017   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Cool, gotcha now.



Jim
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Posted 09/05/2017   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampmaster, can you explain why there are different types of perforations?
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Posted 09/05/2017   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moyock13, these 1898 Battleship Revenue Series Stamps either come "Rouletting" which is indicated at 5 per 20MM. Rouletting does not remove any paper when applied.

The other way is called "Hyphen Hole", just as the name implies, paper is removed, indicated by 7 1/2 per 20MM.

There is a variety called HH14, which is the same as hyphen hole 7 1/2, except for unknown reason the device that makes the hyphen hole 7 1/2 only touches the paper, but does not remove any paper.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.

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Posted 09/05/2017   9:18 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what could be doubling along the top of SERIES OF 1898, but the image is too small to tell for certain.

Otherwise all the other pointed out features look like inking anomalies to me.

The level of analysis being called for here requires at least 1200dpi images.
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Posted 09/05/2017   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I think inking anomalies seems about right.

I have no idea how to do 1200dpi images.

What does "dpi" mean?

Thanks in Advance

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Posted 09/05/2017   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampmaster,

DPI = dots per inch.

You should be able to double click on the word that you don't understand, on any website, then right click and go down to "Search Google for ..."

Jim
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Edited by James Drummond - 09/05/2017 9:52 pm
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Posted 09/05/2017   10:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jim

When I was in school, was taught if you abbreviate such as DIP spell it out first, as follows:

Dots Per Inch (DPI).

This way everyone knows what it means.

I'm way too old, a lot of these terms are new to me or unknown.

Sorry I asked!

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