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Need Help Identifying A Cancel On Another Narcotic Stamp

 
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Posted 09/23/2017   2:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This weird cancel reads (I think):

4P DeS & Sep

Does anyone have any idea what this means?

Or why this text is in such a strange font?

Jim


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Posted 09/23/2017   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ciletaliph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess

A. E. DeS & Son
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Posted 09/23/2017   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
James, I do not think it is a strange font, but a very fancy font. And I read it like Ciletaliph.

Peter
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Posted 09/23/2017   3:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to you both.

This is what Google says:



LOL.

I'll have to keep looking.

Jim
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Posted 09/23/2017   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Google bot 'lives*' on this site, it gets things indexed and added to Google searches typically within a minute or two of a new post. Kudos to Bobby on this.
Don

*It has pitched a tent and camps out 24/7.
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Posted 09/23/2017   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "F" looks more like a B or R, with a curved-down top right corner.
And a mixed case "DeS" for a last name.
I would include A. B. DeS & Son as well as A. R. DeS & Son in searches. or P?
I would have thought the Internal Revenue folks would have a master list of manufacturers / users of these stamps stashed away in the archives?
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Posted 09/23/2017   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John,

There is a 1916 listing of manufacturers of drugs available online. It's called The Era Druggists' Directory.

As there is a period after "A" and whatever the second letter is, I assume that the third word isn't an abbreviation of a longer word.

I searched the whole thing for "oes" and "des" names and didn't find any likely candidates.

But now I'm thinking that the reason why the "S" is capitalized in "Des" is because the word is "De S(something)" and the period is just missing.

Possible?

Jim
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Posted 09/23/2017   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possible but not probable. There does not seem enough room between the e and the S for a dot.

Peter
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Posted 09/23/2017   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter,

I meant a missing period after the "S" and before the ampersand.

So, DeS.

Jim
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Posted 09/23/2017   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
DeSoto is the first thing that came to my mind.
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Posted 09/23/2017   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bart,

I searched for that name and came up with no potential companies.

This stylized font is throwing me as to what the letters really are.

Jim
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Posted 09/23/2017   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After staring at the strange alphabet for a few minutes, I believe the following:

1.) There are no periods on the visible part of name. What appears to be periods are flourishes (fancy ending strokes) of the letters. The capital "A" cross stroke has one extending to the right. The first capital "S" has them in front and behind. You can see these flourishes better on the second capital "S" (Son).

2.) Second letter looks like it might be "R". Not so sure about this.
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Edited by bookbndrbob - 09/23/2017 11:28 pm
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