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The Chicago Exchange Preferred Cancel?

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Posted 10/04/2017   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does anybody have any clue what this cancel might mean?

Seems to read "Chicago Exchange Preferred."

Jim

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Posted 10/04/2017   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jim, have your tried to google it?

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Posted 10/04/2017   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is this "google"?

Not familiar with the term.



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Edited by James Drummond - 10/04/2017 11:00 pm
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Posted 10/05/2017   07:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John Oliver says you should use Bing.

Of course, "bing it" doesn't seem to have the same ring to it as "google it".

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Posted 10/05/2017   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nuts.

Three relatively common words, but when searched on ol' Google, the only real result... is this post.

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Posted 10/16/2017   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AR8Jason to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The phrase appeared a few times in the April-May 1909 newspaper in South Dakota ...
Pierre weekly free press., April 29, 1909
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Edited by AR8Jason - 10/16/2017 11:32 pm
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Posted 10/17/2017   01:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the one different result for "preferred Chicago exchange":
https://archive.org/stream/movpicwo...ovi_djvu.txt
exact text is buried who knows where, the Google search is more useful with an address at 808 Wabash Avenue. But as this is all pertaining to the movie business in 1923, I doubt that there's a connection.

I did look for "Chicago exchange preferred" and "preferred Chicago exchange" in the 1910 Chicago city directory, with no luck in both alpha and (guessed) business category listings. https://www.sassyjanegenealogy.com/...ries-online/ under "Chicago Ancestors" only has a 1923 directory as the next later. You probably want something in between 1910 and 1923.

"Chicago" might be West or North Chicago (separate cities) or perhaps just a name.

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Posted 10/17/2017   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the ideas, I appreciate it.

I'm pretty sure that the cancel begins with "Chicago" and ends with "Preferred" though, based on this angled gap between these two words:



That being said, I have no idea how narcotic tax stamps could be in any way associated with a stock exchange board, in Chicago (or anywhere else for that matter).

The cancel looks too indifferently applied to be the work of someone trying to create a "collectible," but who knows.

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Posted 11/17/2017   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate to flog a potentially dead horse here, but is it possible that these narcotic stamps were used provisionally or accidentally as stock transfer stamps?

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Posted 11/17/2017   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How could they possibly have gotten hold of them to do so? These were used on large size packages of narcotics or on individual bottles or boxes of narcotics. They were made available to the manufacturers who needed them as they were ordered. And I am reasonably sure that the government was very careful about maintaining control of them since the additional laws requiring them were new to the Harrison Act of 1914. It's possible that someone at the company using these noticed that the cancel was weak and did not cover all the stamps and simply picked up whatever rubber stamp was close at hand and struck them.
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Posted 11/17/2017   11:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm just speculating that, since all of these documentary and proprietary and future transfer and silver tax etc. revenue stamps were available at local IRS district offices, why would it not be impossible for a pane of narcotic stamps to somehow get mixed up in the stock transfer stamps folder one day?

And then some of the stamps were subsequently cancelled by a stock trading board?

There is otherwise no mention at all of a manufacturer or importer of narcotic products that had this particular name. But the name is clearly a stock trading exchange.

I would consider this mix-up to at least be a possibility.

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Posted 11/18/2017   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see it, especially in an office as large as the Chicago office must have been. They would have had a specific stamp room or window and specific employees to work it. Plus it would take a special kind of ignorant collector to soak narcotic stamps off of a stock document or certificate.
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Posted 11/18/2017   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, you may have an opportunity to examine it in person, and render an official opinion one way or the other, as I've asked the owner to submit it for a certificate.



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Posted 11/18/2017   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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But the name is clearly a stock trading exchange.

I would consider this mix-up to at least be a possibility



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They would have had a specific stamp room or window and specific employees to work it.


A collision in a busy office, employees drop work orders?
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Posted 11/18/2017   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Out of curiosity, how many Chicago pharmaceutical firms have we identified by their cancels on narcotic tax stamps? In my collection I count none.
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Posted 11/18/2017   7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ron,

Abbott Laboratories, Eli Lilly, G. D. Searle and Company, Halsey Brothers Company, H. E. Bucklen and Company, P. H. Mallen Company, and Sharp and Dohme all were based in, or had depots in, Chicago.

I'm sure that you have examples of at least some of these firms in your collection, now that you know what the initials in the cancels stand for.



Abbott Laboratories, formerly the Abbott Alkaloidal Company, only used their registration number as their cancel. That number was 1332. I'm sure you've got one of these:



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