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Would The Top Line Of This 1c Franklin Be Considered Broken?

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Posted 10/24/2017   12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW!

I am no 1c specialist but I know what a 46L12 is and I have to say that I am VERY happy for you!

Look at the Wagshal sale... the one where Siegel sold his 1c Perforated stamps, he had a bunch of 46L12s and I seem to recall them bringing berserk money. Congrats on a super cool find!

Bill
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Posted 10/24/2017   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jerry (Wagshal) had many of the known copies locked up in his collection forever. When they came out, it was a feeding frenzy.
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Posted 10/24/2017   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Deep Cert just emailed me. Here is the text of his email:

"I had some time today to look over the 46L12. I have no doubt that's what it is.

The F/G mark you mention appears to show better on some copies than others. I had added this mark to the Neinken mat in the book some time ago."
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Posted 10/24/2017   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmt406 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed this when I was looking at other copies of 46L12. PF Cert #496272. Guess they must have misplaced the certificate before they sold the stamp for $5K! I don't really agree with the cert anyway; top line sure looks broken to me.

http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd...lledfrom=lkp

Lot #1516

https://siegelauctions.com/lots.php...6&page_no=65
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Posted 10/24/2017   7:20 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt that very much. A more reasonable assumption is that it was submitted after Wagshal 4.
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Posted 10/24/2017   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jmt406 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could be the case; just looked a little shady to me. Not sure why PF can't provide a date for when cert was issued, or just a pic/scan of the actual cert.
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Posted 11/16/2017   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Plating confirmed :) Congrats !!
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Posted 11/17/2017   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting that he didn't consider the top line broken.

Its a close call, and I definitely acknowledge that deciding if a line is really broken is best done in person.
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If the image uploaded correctly, note the break in the top of this 46L12 from Siegel's site. The break is progressive, meaning as the plate wore the weak top line became broken, and that break widened during printing. This one, found inside a book along with a partial sheet, came out of an estate of a woman who was the daughter of slaves in the Nashville area, probably remainders after demonetization. It took 20 years to get certified as a type III. Note how little "plate wash" this stamp has compared to the one under discussion, as it was a much later print.
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