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Plating 1857-61 1c Franklins

 
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Posted 11/18/2017   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jaxom100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is one I got and found three faults that were not listed.
Repaired tears at 10:00 about .5" and at 12:00 about 1/8", pinhole in "S" of "POSTAGE".
I think it matches 23L5 very well.
Did not cost much.


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Posted 11/18/2017   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Strange. While your stamps is a good match for the example on the Doporto site it looks nothing like the example in Neinken's book. Neinken's example shows multiple plating marks that are absent here.
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Posted 11/18/2017   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jaxom, I see nothing to suggest 23L5. I think 66L5 is a better bet, based on the plating mark evident in the left margin indicated by the arrow below. This position is not included in the Doporto archive. Check the Neinken illustration for this position against your example.


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Posted 11/18/2017   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I see nothing here to suggest 23L5. I agree with stallzer and dudley
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Posted 11/18/2017   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it is C Relief. Are we sure it is scarce plate 5? It doee have nice impression that leans toward plate 5.
I haven't had chance to try and plate but not 23L5 unless Neinken wrong
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Posted 11/20/2017   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just got an email from Deep Cert.

He confirms that this is 66L5.

Here is a reference copy:




"There is that heavy dot off orn H as discussed. Unfortunately the left margin dots halfway down (as shown in Neinken) are under cancel.

In addition, there are some fine scratches shown in the Neinken mat at orn L/M, they don't scan well, but they do match with the posted stamp.

Siegel sale 1006 lot 1266 is a strip, 66-67-68L5, ex Neinken, which interested parties could download as reference. No doubt Neinken drew his mat using this strip."
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Posted 08/31/2018   06:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one that I wold like a little help on.
I am not real familiar with plates 5-10.
This one is clearly a 10th column left pane stamp.
The thick line looks like plate 9.
My guess is that it appears to be 100L9?


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Posted 08/31/2018   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
100L9 looks correct.
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Posted 08/31/2018   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That would be my assessment. You can narrow it down to two possible positions right away. The thick center line indicates Plate 9, as you say, and the fact that it's Relief F limits the choices to 60L9 and 100L9. The bottom ornaments are slightly more complete for 10th-row Relief F positions than they are for 6th-row positions, which is the case here. Other plating marks (blur in Ornament P, dash to the right of Ornament M) confirm 100L9.
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Posted 09/15/2018   02:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What about this top row stamp?
It should be an easy one.



EDIT: I think I found the position at 4L8.


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Edited by jaxom100 - 09/15/2018 09:01 am
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Posted 09/15/2018   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, this is 4L8. The position of the UR guide dots narrows it down to Plate 5, 7 or 8. It's not always as easy as you might think to plate top-row Type V stamps, though.
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Posted 09/15/2018   11:23 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's 4-5L8, you can easily see the same blur at the scribe lines for 5L8:

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