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Help With 2 China Stamps

 
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Pillar Of The Community

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Posted 11/23/2017   04:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add filipo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Possibly some kind of revenues (I didn't find them listed in the major stamp catalogs)... any idea?

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Japan
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Posted 11/23/2017   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Fillipo,

Found the second one on Web, saying that it is a local Revenue Stamp of Republic of China, issued by Zhejiang province local government in 1924, overprinted special use for government bond.

http://www.yscoin.com/index.php?mai...tgpmmjs3jkh1

- Hironobu
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Posted 11/23/2017   07:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fillipo,

The first one is issued by Jiangsu province local government. The overprint ( left RIGHT column) shows the year/month of issue; the first two characters, "Yang Fire" and "Tiger" corresponds to the year 1926 (or more precisely, from Feb 13 1926 to Feb 01 1927) expressed in "ganzhi" or sexagenary cycle, the next two simply says "August". Not quite sure whether this "August" is that of the western calendar or Chinese calendar (for the latter case, late august to early october).

The right LEFT column says "Usage restricted only for ****", which I cannot decipher the first two characters; let us wait until someone who understands Chinese will drop by.

The conversion between the cyclic years and western years could be found on Wikipedia; go to "A shorter equivalent method" and look at the table for 1924-2043. Pretty much complicated though...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexag...E2.80.932043

-Hironobu

--- edited and corrected for typo & mistakes: previous error cancelled with line and corrected ones shown in bold uppercase. Many thanks to Cal168 for mentioning the mistake.
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Edited by unechan - 11/23/2017 11:49 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cai168 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
unechan you mixed up the columns, right date, and left means dedicated lottery ticket. The middle character looks like #20018; meaning string together but I dont understand context wtih the two columns.
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Edited by Cai168 - 11/23/2017 08:54 am
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Posted 11/23/2017   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for replies, unechan and Cai168!

So, if I understood correctly, the first one is lottery revenue? Number #20018 is posibly unique number of that ticked?
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Posted 11/23/2017   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cal168,

Thanks for mentioning my careless mistake.

==== corrected description =====

The first one is issued by Jiangsu province local government.

The overprint (RIGHT column) shows the year/month of issue; the first two characters, "Yang Fire" and "Tiger" corresponds to the year 1926 (or more precisely, from Feb 13 1926 to Feb 01 1927) expressed in "ganzhi" or sexagenary cycle, the next two simply says "August". Not quite sure whether this "August" is that of the western calendar or Chinese calendar (for the latter case, late august to early october).

The LEFT column says "Usage restricted only for ****", which I cannot decipher the first two characters; let us wait until someone who understands Chinese will drop by.

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-Hironobu
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Posted 11/23/2017   11:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear all,

My original post on the first stamp has been edited and corrected. Many thanks to Cal168.

Hironobu
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Posted 11/23/2017   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add unechan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Filipo and Cal168,

Based on Cal168's valuable comment regarding lottery, my current best guess is



The middle character, #30002;, is the first character (symbol) of the so-called Celestial stem, and might be indicating the first category of the lottery (assuming there was multiple different categories then). FYI, here in Japan we still do use this celestial stem symbols for numbering the order of things, like different types or quality of items.

- Hironobu

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Edited by unechan - 11/24/2017 06:57 am
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