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Posted 12/20/2017   12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Blobster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi
This is my first post !
Can anyone help me identify this that I got in a mixed lot? It looks like an Indian State but I cannot find it on SG Commonwealth. It looks like it could have a monarchs picture on it but it is very unclear.
Any help would be appreciated!

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Posted 12/20/2017   12:18 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have my catalog at hand, but this appears to be from Nepal.
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Posted 12/20/2017   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Nepal, Sc#10. These were often from telegraph forms, so worth less than postally used ones. Don't know which this is.
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Posted 12/20/2017   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go...

1899 Scott 10 1/2a black
"Siva's Bow and Two Khukris"
This stamp was produced in 1899, and is shown here, a 1/2a black. Two varieties- imperf (1899-1907) & pin-perf (1900-1903) - on Native wove paper were issued (CV $10+).

This design was not used again, except for a 1/2a red orange imperf (CV $400) released in 1917.

https://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.c...ofNepal.html
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Posted 12/20/2017   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Richard Frajola to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott catalog for the classic issue of Nepal is essentially worthless. I supplied the editor last year with a suggested revision but they were unable to incorporate any of the changes into the 2018 specialized. I hope to write and publish an in-depth catalog of the 1881-1930 issues in the next year.

As an example of the confusions. There is a 1/2 anna black that was issued in the 1899 to 1907 period that is rare used while the next re-issue of the stamp, that started in 1917, is common used telegraphically as intended (99.9% have easy to identify cancels).

I noticed the Jkjblue blog listings on Nepal has problems that are really Scott catalog problems - for example your 4 annas, 1886 issue, identified as a Scott #9 is actually a post 1917 printing with a telegraphic cancel. Scotts lumps 1898 and 1917 printing together in error but according to their catalog, your stamp would be Scott #17.

My collection linked below has things described correctly and telegraphic cancels illustrated. Would save tons of pain if Scott's catalog illustrated these cancels: http://www.rfrajola.com/nepal/nepal.htm
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Posted 12/20/2017   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Richard,
Thank you for the input and for all that you do for the hobby.
Don
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Posted 12/20/2017   5:19 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed - the Nepal exhibit, which Richard kindly linked previously, is a wonderful piece of work.
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Posted 12/20/2017   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blobster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all so much. Brilliant information.
It came in a commonwealth lot so I assumed India.
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Posted 12/20/2017   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
[shuffle, shuffle, shuffle] Where's that "Like" button? [/shuffle]

Found it.
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Posted 12/20/2017   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm aware of the inadequacies of the Scott catalogue, and say so on my Nepal blog post.

Richard- if you can get the Scott catalogue to reflect current expert opinion on the issues, that would be great!
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Posted 12/21/2017   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Richard Frajola to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the kind comments.

Blobster - I forgot to mention that your stamp is from the period after 1917 (not the 1899 to 1907 period) and appears to have a telegraphic cancel. It is not surprising that it came in a British Commonwealth collection as most printed stamp albums (pre 1950 at least) included Nepal in with the Indian Native States. The circa 1900 albums just had a header that said Nepal with no boxed spaces, just a blank page.
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Posted 12/21/2017   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blobster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Richard,
I assumed as much from your linked pages. I am not sure I can tell what the cancellation is, but it looks much more like a telegraph cancel in your illustrations. Perhaps sub-Office II cancel from Birganj? The huge margins suggest it must have been a bottom left corner or at least bottom row.
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Posted 12/27/2017   06:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aug-stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Nepal is not the strong point of Scott Catalogue :)
Without the good people here I would have never identified my blocks of 1/2 Paisa.

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