Stock Transfer Stamps Red Overprints ??

In my Palo revenue albums there are spaces for stock transfer stamps with red overprints ?? Is there such a thing ? Thanks

According to the Scott catalog they come in either black or red.

Peter

The Scott note about "overprinted in black or red" ahead of RD1 is very general. Only RD11, RD14, and RD16 are in red as noted by the "(R)" designation.

Thanks for the info. The albums have spaces for the documentary issues overprinted in black as listed in Scott but also separate spaces for these same issues with a red overprint. I have never seen any listed from one to 80 cents ??

No red overprints on red stamps.

Gizmo422 - If the Palo album has separate spaces for black and red overprints on the cents denomination, it lowers any respect that I might have had for Palo albums.

Sadly, it is true. In all fairness, however Ron, Palo is the ONLY hingeless album maker that covers the entire world per Scott listing order, so there are bound to be some mistakes in some of the specialty areas.

Additionally, since they make their album page layouts based upon the Scott Catalogue, if you look at the way Scott has worded the listings, I can see how they made their error:




I will contact Palo with the error so they can rectify it in future printings. They are also missing some spaces on page 2.

Below are scans of the Palo stock transfer pages up to where the greens start.

Dan - thanks for posting the Palo stock transfer pages. The first page will remain ever unfilled, because the cents values were never overprinted STOCK TRANSFER in red. The second page also has some difficulty. RD 11, the $1 with red overprint certainly exists reading up and reading down; RD12 the $1 with black overprint is also listed as existing reading up and reading down, but in spite of the modest Scott catalog value of $7.50, I can't recall that I have ever seen one offered for sale. In any case there are none currently listed on either the Friedberg or Jackson websites. The $2 reading down is listed in Scott with a value of $11.50 uncut and with cut cancel as $1.50. Again, none are currently offered on either the Friedberg or Jackson websites. I do not recall this one being offered either.

Thanks for all the feedback. The albums are nice but there are other typo errors in it also. I think they need someone to proofread their setup that has actual stamp knowledge before they print as product.

Happy New Year !

The albums are nicely done ( expensive though) and do have a lot of illustrations vs.the Scotts national pages. I'll have to find something ( like inverted overprints....ha ha !) to fill in the spaces ! They are the only firm that offers hingeless pages for revenue stamps. Overall I'll give them a B+ for great workmanship and appearance. I think if scott would let them use their catalog numbers they would have a super product !

Gizzmo,

Thanks for the thread!

After almost 2 years of dithering, I gritted my teeth and bought the three volumes of US revenues (ignoring the M&Ms and ducks) as a Christmas present to myself.

Overall, I love them! Hate the price, but love the albums.

I too noticed the weird overprint issue (there are a few other weird things as well), some incorrect scans, etc. As I am transferring my old one volume Scott Revenue album to these I am keeping track and also plan to email Palo about what I have found. I am almost done moving them over.

As you would expect, I have rediscovered I am missing some stamps I was simply ignoring and so need to go track them down. There are some quality issues I conveniently ignored on some as well, to include some cheapie stamps. Thankfully, I had dupes and have fixed many of those!

As far as physical quality of the pages and albums go, I do have three minor issues so far but want Palo to have the opportunity to address these first before I say anything here. I have heard nothing but good things about their customer service. I was worried about the albums themselves after reading some of the comments on SCF, but mine seem fine.

Overall, if you can afford them or even if you save up for them, I am confident you will not regret it. Hingeless is awesome, and they look great. If you have a decent US revenue collection, you will wonder what took so long.

Next task, soaking the hinges off three albums worth of used stamps; murmur......

Here is what the page looks like with stamps in it. I ordered my pages B&W so I could tell what missing BTW...

I meant to mention this.

It really is an irritant not having catalog numbers. Thankfully, my collection is more complete than not complete and I intend to make labels in Excel and put them in the mounts for the missing stamps to ID what is actually missing.

If Palo can fix the few issues and add Scott cat numbers, these pages are a must have for the serious collector!

Palo pages are expensive enough as it is. Having to license Scott numbers would ratchet the costs even higher.

As long as you have a copy of the Scott catalog for what you are working on, the lack of numbers printed on the page is not an impediment, as without exception, the pages are always laid out in Scott order.

Unlike dealing with Lindner, Safe, or Lighthouse hingeless pages where items are NOT listed in Scott order, working with Palo pages is easy peasy.

P.S. I also wholeheartedly agree with getting the pages printed in black & white. Color album pages are a pain in the [CENSORED] to work with.

Here's a set of the stamps that Ron referred to above.

Just to show that they do, in fact, exist.

Which brings up one of my pet peeves / unanswered philatelic questions:

How come, when a surcharge or overprint is applied horizontally, and then it is flipped, it is either "normal" or "inverted," but when that same surcharge or overprint is applied vertically, it is either "reading up" or "reading down"?

Seems pretty inconsistent.

The "reading down" overprints are clearly inverted overprints, if you look at it logically.

And soberly...

Jim

Hi Jim,

Thank you for the scan!

I don't think I have ever seen copies of these four stamps.

Now that there are empty spots on that page, these get added to the want list and will bug me until I have copies...

As a long time specialist in revenues, I find the catalog listings woefully inadequate. Take RH1, for example. The overprint was applied on stamps for over a decade. During that decade, they used the underlying Buffalo prints (no dots in the circles to the left and right of CENT); they also used the BEP offset prints with the added secret marks (a bold dot inside the aforementioned circles to the left and right of CENT); and post-1924 the prints from high etch plates (at times called letterset by the late George Brett). So RH1 should be collected in all three variations. Catalogs and albums designed from them prove to be inadequate to the specialized collector. I will try to scan the three varieties later.