Anthony's 8A Opinions Wanted

This Anthony's listing is an 8A? You tell me what you think.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stamps-...AOSwLgNaao2c

I emailed myself that link and was going to add it to the other thread. Surely looks like a secret mark in the left oval to me but with such a bad scan it's hard to tell. To me neither top or bottom outer curved frame is distinctly broken, let alone visible.

Anthony can post nice photos of his stamps when he wants to. The fact that this photo is so distorted makes me wonder what he is trying to hide.

Alub, I agree. The high contrast of the pic makes me think that there are surface issues (wrinkles or scuffs) on the stamp.

The stamp is highly unlikely to be a Type IIIa and may be a Type II. I think it is most likely to be a Type IV, Scott #9 with a cleaned cancel. The cancel removal kind of ruined the stamp so it is a little tough to nail it down perfectly.

The dot in the oval is in the wrong place for the secret mark.

There is too much we can't see.
Major thing(s) have happened to this stamp since it was printed.

As it appears to me - there is no such stamp. either:
1) transfer roll #1 b relief with a cancellation dot. (Doesn't exist)
2) plate 11 T relief with LL plume not correct and no perforations

I can't think of any proof that would look like this.

Conclusion: Another hot mess

Sinclair: I agree - best odds are: #9 b relief

I think I found it at 26L1L?

Take a look......

Jaxom - no EE recut, but could have been scraped off.

There is plenty here that isn't quite what it seems.

I was looking at the marks in the "O" of ONE. You can see the stop point of the top and bottom recuts. And a white scrape mark where the second recut would be. Look at Neinken's page 160.

I agree that the O marks are similar.

Look at the top and bottom recuts, where they end. You know where it stops and you can "see" them.