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Csa Stamp - Some Additions To My Collection

 
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Posted 01/31/2018   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jamesw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Recently won this collection of CSA stamps and I'm pretty thrilled about it.
I saw in the sellers image one obvious forgery, what Dietz calls 'toothless old man'. Since I also collect forgeries, I' was very interested.
Arrived yesterday.



#2, #4 stone 2, #7 Richmond printing on local paper, #8
three #11 (one early Archer & Dale printing and two later Keatinge & Ball, #12 Keatinge & Ball printing
On the bottom row, #14 unissued, 3 New York forgeries and a #11 forgery referred to in Dietz as 'toothless old man'



I found the grouping also included 3 New York forgeries. These were created by altering the 10˘ Altered plate, and can be discerned by the short horizontal middle strokes on the F and E in FIVE, and also, I've notice in all I've ever seen a small dot to the upper right of the upper left six pointed star. Also, according to Kimbrough, the #11 was never printed in this green colour.

Part of my Christmas bonus well spent!
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Posted 02/01/2018   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice collection James.

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Posted 02/01/2018   10:24 am  Show Profile Check pascoe's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pascoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are fascinating issues, thanks for sharing. Was this an ebay auction win?
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Posted 02/01/2018   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sleepy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've always wanted to collect the CSA stamps, but the forgeries deterred me. I'm thinking it over again, now.
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Tempting.
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Posted 02/01/2018   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am one of those people who put these back for a rainy day but have never gotten around to working with them. If I don't get to them soon, it will be up to the 'next guy' to go through them.
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Posted 02/01/2018   10:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all. Yes, this was an ebay win. Got them for about $10 per stamp. More than I usually bid, but like I said, my wife let me keep some of my Christmas bonus, so why not!
The first CSA stamp I ever bought turned out to be a fake (a Springfield facsimile), but I've come to love the bogus as much as the real thing.
Nice page studebaker. Terrific colour variations on your 11/12s
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Posted 02/01/2018   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sleepy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you know the seller on ebay ?
How did you authenticte them ?
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Posted 02/01/2018   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi sleepy. No I didn't know the seller. He's in Amsterdam, and his ebay listing even read 'no guarantees'.
All I can say is RESEARCH. Look and read. I'd recommend the New Dietz Confederate States Catalogue (1986), I got one for Christmas after borrowing it from the VGG (Vincent Graves Greene/Harry Sunderland) library in Toronto over and over again. Also websites of Dr JL Kimbrough and Patricia Kaufmann are musts to bookmark.
A lot of folks, like you, are deterred from CSA stamps because of the forgeries. I say embrace them!! Its all part of the history.

http://www.jlkstamps.com/webpage/index1.htm
https://www.trishkaufmann.com

I will note that many of the links on Dr Kimbrough's site seem unresponsive. Perhaps you'll have better luck.
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Posted 02/01/2018   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sleepy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating stuff ! Material for a whole new approach to philately.
Thanks, jamesw
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