Newfoundland C18 Forgery On Ebay?

Not sure whether this belongs here or the eCommerce forum but I wanted to get other's opinions on the stamp being offered.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEWFOUNDLA....m1438.l2649

From my reading of the information in the Walsh Specialized catalog it appears to lack one of the attributes of a genuine example, "The L of BALBO is slightly above the A". In this case the A and L appear to be at the same height. This difference is supported by images on The Philatelic Foundation's certificate search site.

Opinions?

Terry

Timmca..Hr is inverted,,Normal is expensive..Either seller is a scammer or knows nothing about this stamp..

Robert

wert: I'm inclined to agree. I looked at sold listings on ebay of which there are six, all Mint, realizing $106 - $260. I've no idea what the noted forgeries are selling for.

Terry

Suggest you carefully reread the NSSC guidelines on the Balbo O/P, specifically LL setting, before you cast more aspersions on seller. It is better to have one's ducks in a row first before you call out as fake.

Please excuse my ignorance but what are the NSSC guidelines?

Terry

Would never touch it without a certificate.

Related SCF thread:

https://goscf.com/t/6692

Newfoundland Specialized Stamp Catalogue, by Walsh et. al.

archerg: Thank you. That's the pub I referenced in the OP.

We list the differences for each position for the genuine (G),
St. John's (ST) and New York (NY) forgeries.
Position #1: (G) The L of BALBO is slightly above the A

What specifically were you citing?


Terry

In general, in my experience with this stamp (I have many), it can be forged quite easily.
The underlying stamp is available and the black surcharge can be faked.
However, generally though you would see this for the higher value, inverted etc
This stamp is listed for like $7 and the buyer looks to be established, so not sure it is forgery.
Hard to tell

Definitely agree with getting a certificate for this one, without question

There are ways to analyze whether or not a stamp is a forgery...

1 - Type of paper (needs another original for comparison)

2 - If it is mint- does the glue seem to go into the perforations, if so it is probably fake..Hard to keep gum bleeding into perf holes when re gumming a stamp back...Remember gum was applied and stamp printed and then perf holes were applied leaving clear paper fibers.

3- New forged perfs would have their sides squished and stuck temporarily and with time...these fibers would open up over time...You can see the difference.

4 - Measuring the "over print" and comparing it with and original.

5 - Type faces, bolder, serifs different, ink colour/thickness.

6 - Measuring height and width of stamp frames.

7 - Colour of perf holes and comparing it with colour of paper on stamp..Remember freshly perfed stamp will have a clearer crisper colour than a time/weather aged stamp.

8 - etc., etc., and etc...Many more indicators resent.

Robert

Ed Wener discusses the St. John's and New Forgeries of the Balbo stamp in his work on Newfoundland fakes and forgeries.

http://www.jacestamps.com/e-books/N...orgeries.pdf

jarnick: Thanks for replying.

The reprint of that article in Walsh is where I got the info regarding the alignment of the A and L in BALBO.

Terry