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Posted 04/30/2018   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dynamode, that is correct. It is also why e keep emphasizing that the dimensions in the catalog should not be used as a determining factor in identifying ( rare ) stamp

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Posted 04/30/2018   2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the printed image sizes are different for the two stamps with different perks, then paper shrinkage is the prime suspect.

If the printed images are the same, is it possible that a new plate has been made, requiring a slightly different perf.
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Posted 04/30/2018   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks peter4522. I cannot clearly see the watermarks on most, even with clean backs. So have put them all to one side until I can put them in water. They are tough to sort correctly.
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Posted 05/02/2018   12:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As for the "shrinking" Canadian stamps, a very simple test would be to take a mint stamp from a block or sheet and soak off the gum and dry it. Then compare it with a mint one from the same sheet. These stamps are worth nothing but face anyway.

I will try it myself if I can find some lying around.
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Posted 05/02/2018   08:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again guys...

IF the top perf is different because of so called shrinkage then the bottom perf should follow the same analysis..But..BUT..When you get a stamp after water removal and the top is a different perf than the bottom..There is more going on than just shrinkage..

Robert
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Posted 05/02/2018   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It could be that one of the rows of pins and holes on the perforating plate was slightly different. These would have to be found on mint copies to check out.
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Posted 05/02/2018   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert - where in this post have you compared the top and bottom perforations of the SAME soaked stamp? I see a comparison of the mint and soaked stamps only, and two different used stamps.
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Edited by BeeSee - 05/02/2018 1:34 pm
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Posted 05/02/2018   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert. I did not realise your stamp has a different guage top and low. Are you sure ?. Is that even possible ?. I will check my 2 used stamps again. Your posts are always very interesting.
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Posted 05/02/2018   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Robert wrote;
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True Don..But if TOP shrinks, so should the BOTTOM.


BeeSee wrote
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Robert - where in this post have you compared the top and bottom perforations of the SAME soaked stamp? I see a comparison of the mint and soaked stamps only, and two different used stamps.


Robert's first two stamps comparing the top and bottom perfs of same stamp; they are the same.


Don
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Posted 05/02/2018   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don so I misunderstood (Robert can confirm). The referral was the top and bottom STAMPS? Not the top and bottom row of perfs?

So Robert, you are wondering why one soaked stamp shrunk and the other didn't?
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Posted 05/02/2018   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the confusing part:


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When you get a stamp after water removal and the top is a different perf than the bottom..There is more going on than just shrinkage..
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Posted 05/02/2018   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The one thing I know for sure, I am confused.
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Posted 05/02/2018   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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The one thing I know for sure, I am confused.


That is a regular occurance for me
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Posted 05/02/2018   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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That is a regular occurance for me


It is something to think about.
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Posted 05/02/2018   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really dont know why you guys are so confused..and btw, thanks for the extremely kind words..makes a guy want to post more..hmmm

When you soak off a stamp and IF the stamp shrinks..BOTH top and bottom SHOULD be the same..But it is not.

And out of the 95 I checked, about 7-8 were 13.4..

Robert.
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