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Block Of 4 - J75 ? ?

 
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dale Kramer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




This block is J75, Scott put a new value of $275 per stamp never hinged, could this be right since it is a precancel never used???
Gum is still on the back of the stamp. What am I missing here? Thanks for help in advance.
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott prices are for stamps that are unused, not precancels as far as I know

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Posted 05/12/2018   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A little bit of paper remnants on the back and a little bit of cancellation. Analogy: "a little bit pregnant".
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Hi Dale,
Precancels are considered 'used' even if they have gum. Additionally, your block appears to be perf 11x10.5 which would make it a J85 so please re-check the perforations. (I am using your image and since there is a bit of skew in the image you should verify.)
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dale Kramer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, looks like a little bit pregnant! Question: are precancelled, if not used on a letter, considered a used stamp?




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These stamps appear to have very little gum. If they did you would know immediately whether it was 11x11 flat plate or 11x10.5 rotary just by looking at it.
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Question: are precancelled, if not used on a letter, considered a used stamp?

Yes.
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dale Kramer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just checked with perf gauge, they look like 11x11.
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Posted 05/12/2018   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dale Kramer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your help Don.
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Hi Dale -

If your block is perf 11, then it is J75. The pictures are not great - a good scan would be better - but it does look to be OG & NH. But the Scott value is for a mint copy, and precancels are not considered mint. But still a nice item!
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but it does look to be OG & NH


um, OG but hardly would it qualify as NH
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Additionally, your block appears to be perf 11x10.5 which would make it a J85 so please re-check the perforations.


Don, If the block of 4 was a rotary press printing, the horizontal perforations would be aligned vertically between rows. Random perforation alignment can occur on the vertical rows. horizontal rows were perforated by a bar (or drum) perforator that punched holes in horizontal rows all at the same time.

It is often possible to identify a stamp just by carefully examining it. In addition to random alignment of perforation rows, the shorter aspect ratio of the design and the poorly applied local precancel are indicators that the stamps were from a flat plate printing.
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