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Posted 05/18/2018   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Was going through about 600 of these Scott 0241F perfin stamps.

I noticed a stamp with the always disappointing magic marker monkey cancel...Then I found another and another, but when I joined them together they seem to have come from the same envelope...

Robert

What is the chances of that happening...See picture below.


Now before anyone one says "Hey, the perfins don't even line up"..Check out the 3 stamps below.

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Posted 05/18/2018   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Possibly once every 5 years, I read about it.
The first, I read where a very scarce stamp / part postmark was evidenced
on an issue, then another came up for auction half way across the world,
and the two were finally rejoined.

I scanned the commentary, and have never been able to find it again.
I have matched a pair (postmark) once in a plastic box of sundry.

It is kinda cool.

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Posted 05/18/2018   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another nice find, Robert.......when are you going to stop

René
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Posted 05/18/2018   8:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, if you come across some OHMS perf Cartier 208, please post them here. I am looking for a few positions to complete my collection and would like to see what's out there.
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Edited by Gilles le timbre - 05/19/2018 09:55 am
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Posted 05/18/2018   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rene..rod222

Gilles le timbre...Regular Scott 208...?

Robert
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Posted 05/18/2018   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Apples and oranges Rod.

Your story is about stamps that were split up into different hands/part of the world and then were reunited. There is no evidence that these stamps were ever in different hands and then reunited. Since they are a part of a large horde, it is likely that they have remained together (in the same horde) since they were soaked. It is nice that Robert has pieced them back together.
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Posted 05/18/2018   8:34 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just posted about an unlikely philatelic "family reunion" 145 years after the fact just the other day:

https://goscf.com/t/61995

I suppose that theoretically they could have been together in someone's collection prior to the 1960s, but that's highly unlikely. I like to think it's the first time they've been reunited since originally affixed to documents in 1873.

Anyway, finding separate but originally contiguous stamps in bulk lots or mixtures occurs more often than you would think. Still, nice to get the kids back together!
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Posted 05/18/2018   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revenuecollector..Very, very nice write up buddy.

Also one can follow the wear and tear of the actual perforation machine...Look at the "M" on these stamps below..Obviously from the same run.

Robert




One last one...Look at this stamp pair..How can a perf machine not punch/or break between stamps..weird.

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Posted 05/18/2018   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is great - Robert - you should be proud !!
R
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Posted 05/19/2018   12:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
I just posted about an unlikely philatelic "family reunion" 145 years after the fact just the other day:


Extraordinary... well done.

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Posted 05/19/2018   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
Look at this stamp pair..How can a perf machine not punch/or break between stamps..weird.


I think the sheets were stacked or folded, and several stamps were perfinned at the same time. If the pins were worn that would explain it.
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Posted 05/19/2018   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I think the sheets were stacked or folded, and several stamps were perfinned at the same time. If the pins were worn that would explain it.


Hi dynamode...If you have sheets piled on and 2 or more are fed into the perforation machine, and because the pins are long enough to JUST perfs the stamps, any piling up would cause what is in the picture below..Broken pins are just that, broken pins..Any thoughts.

Robert

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Posted 05/19/2018   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two things relevant here.

I reunited this pair from different sources about 7 years ago and still can't believe my luck!




And this block of NZ KGV with an MGM perfin shows they were folded vertically before being the perfin was applied, hence the reversed G. I don't know if a sheet was "concertina'd" or simply folded in half


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Posted 05/19/2018   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jubilee...Nice find...take a look at my original post.

https://goscf.com/t/52478&SearchTerms=,perfins

Gilles le timbre..I will keep an eye open for you.
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Edited by wert - 05/19/2018 10:00 am
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Posted 05/19/2018   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dynamode to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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.If you have sheets piled on and 2 or more are fed into the perforation machine, and because the pins are long enough to JUST perfs the stamps, any piling up would cause what is in the picture below..Broken pins are just that, broken pins..Any thoughts.


I have no idea if the machines did one stamp/row at a time, or complete sheets. If it was rows, all those stamps in the row would have the same defects. Unless of course a pin broke. Thoughts ?.
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Posted 05/19/2018   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Rare find. Thanks for sharing.
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