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Binning A Colorful Stamp

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Posted 06/26/2018   12:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add finches to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Need help identifying 'unusual color'..not in Gibbons
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Posted 06/26/2018   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
may be you could scan together with other colors of this same stamp to see the difference better. Here a picture of the color guide which could be a first indication for you:
https://goscf.com/t/27195&whichpage=2#233467
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Posted 06/26/2018   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stamprix, under pure UV light it glows bright Orange.Similar to Australian 1d KGV Salmon (eosin)
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Edited by finches - 06/26/2018 09:01 am
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Posted 06/26/2018   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The color of the paper itself leads me to believe some substance, possibly from the envelope it was attached to, has affected the color/chemistry of the stamp making comparison to others and deciding on a particular shade difficult at best.

In any case, this might be of some help:




I would provide credits to the source but do not recall where I found this.
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Posted 06/26/2018   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Suspect during the War when Red pigment was scarce both US & Aus' sourced same . Documented in Aust' KGV specialist Cat.
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Edited by finches - 06/26/2018 09:33 am
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Posted 06/26/2018   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably the colours were supplied by the Brits to us both!
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Posted 06/26/2018   09:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper123, have strong suspicion 'you're right' BUT experts may elaborate further. Hope my U.S. friends could check similar color stamps in their possession.
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Posted 06/26/2018   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from an image, but the paper looks to be badly toned. Very difficult to draw any color conclusions on used stamps that have condition issues.
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Posted 06/26/2018   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Suspect during the War when Red pigment was scarce both US & Aus' sourced same . Documented in Aust' KGV specialist Cat.



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Probably the colours were supplied by the Brits to us both!


I am curious, to which war are you referring finches?

I can assure you the US did not rely on the Brits for pigments at the turn of the century.
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Posted 06/26/2018   10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I were to take a stab at it (and it appears someone already has on the stamps right) I would say a Pink or Carmine Rose with some invader color from the paper it was attached to at one time.
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Posted 06/26/2018   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper123, In a black room, under UV, one cannot miss the GLOW from 6 feet away. So obvious which led me to believe during WW1 for a very short period US & Aust' received same supply. At the time of first seeing it thought I'd dropped a Aust' KGV Salmon on table.
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Edited by finches - 06/26/2018 10:42 am
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Posted 06/26/2018   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just call me curious...does the whole stamp glow or only the colored portion? As Don said above, the toning of the paper itself will defy accurate conclusions about the shade.
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Posted 06/26/2018   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These stamps were printed in the late 19th and very early 20th century, before WWI.
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Posted 06/26/2018   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper123, Only the stamp(ink) glows exactly same as 1d Aust' KGV Salmon. No others 2c Washington do...in my possession. The stamp COLOR is distinct compared to other 2c shades I have.
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Posted 06/26/2018   11:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
finches, I collect UV tagged stamps. One thing you may want to keep in mind, the taggant can migrate to other used stamps when you soak them

Peter
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Posted 06/26/2018   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Petert4522, The stamp has been with me for 50 years, as is. Never been hinged according to rear view. When I was 14 received it in it's own stamp packet from long gone collector of Aust' stamps as a starter. Had I not accidently left my UV light on, at bedtime, I wouldn't have seen it(the glow) when coming back to turn UV off.
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