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Canada Cartier No 19 Plating Project

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Posted 10/05/2018   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 10/07/2018   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles,

If I plated this one properly, this would cover four of your missing positions. I have this as position 18-30. Not sure if I am right.

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Posted 10/07/2018   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jimjung,
it looks more like 28,29,30,38,39,40. The key is difficult to see but if you can show a loseup of the 39 (2nd row, middle of your block, there should be 2 diagonal lines in the white oval just right of the letters NA of Canada.
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Posted 10/13/2018   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles, Thanks for plating this block! I see the lines. Here's the closeup of the middle stamp - bottom row.
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Posted 10/13/2018   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Confirmed, this is position 39
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Posted 10/14/2018   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles le timbre - have you determined anything regarding trodent's four stamps on page 1.
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51Studebaker, Trodent,
I can confirm that the 4th one is position 96, as evidenced by the position dot in bottom margin, weak transfer on upper sprandle, and broken line in left frame line near the connection with the large oval, as well as dot on nose. I'll work on the other 3 when I have a few minutes available.
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Posted 10/28/2018   07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles,

Where are you getting this plating info. Is it from Ken Kershaw's Book? If so, I would buy a copy.

Here is another 17c with the dot at lower left but this dot seems to be slightly left of the dot on Trodent's copy. I have a few that have small marks such as this which could probably get plated with the right info.

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Posted 10/28/2018   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kershaw's book is an excellent reference for plating these. By the way don't ignore the short entry in the hachuring in the upper right corner. Very useful in plating these as well. Details are given in Kershaw's book.




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Posted 10/28/2018   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jimjung,
I do use the Kershaw book for plating this stamp.
Yours is a position 98, and I indicated on this scan thekey elements leading to the determination. The short transfer on top right half od frame. the position of dots in the Left and right ovals (right position dot in this oval is indicative of 8th column), and the large dot in the bottom margin, indicating it is from last row of the sheet.
By the way, if you go to the project, you can notice that I have made recent progress, having assemble 82 of the 100 positions. Still looking for some in 2nd column and 8th column as they are more difficult to identify.
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A pretty sad example but I thought I'd ask here, are these safe to soak? This one needs a bath.



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Finally managed to get a decent copy of position 29, from the late printing showing the extended scratch, from top oval center to N of Cents. I'll try to get a better scan shortly
That leaves only 11 missing to complete the sheet reconstruction.
I need positions 12,15,18,19,25,32,59,72,74,86 and 92.
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Posted 01/02/2019   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my newly acquired position 29. This is a tough one to find.

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Nice one Watermark, and showing the variety very strong. I note the line from nose to hand is more visible on your copy too, which may indicate the variety evolved slightly overtime. We should both confirm the perforations to see if it is from the same order.
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Hi Gilles, Mine is perforation 12X12 give or take a tenth. I usually don't worry about tenths of a perforation as paper shrinkage or misshaped perforations can throw measurements off that much. I believe mine an early printing of the flaw as scratches usually faded as the plate flattened during wear. This flaw is a late arrival by best guess. It may be storage damage on the plate from poor handling. I have seen a proof sheet that shows no sign of this flaw.

Best, Mike
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