Help Wanted - Victorian Cover Cancells

Please can a cancellation expert help with these cancels
The 89(98) cancel is from Blackburn Post Office Lancashire I think (Google My Friend) But the others no Idea what they mean I know the places but all the other numbers no clue.


Full Cover Penny Red

Stamp Cancels

Cancel on the Back of the cover

If I,m reading the address correctly

Mr H Jackson
38 Church rd
Stanley
??Liverpool

Thank you in advance


Ray

maybe posted 11 November 1874 arrived 12 November 1874

what do the X and F2 mean


Ray

Ray,
Not an expert.
Shown is a London EC (East Central) "Duplex" hand canceller number 98, referred to as a "London 3-5-5-3 Duplex 98"
The X identifies the hammer in use.
As does the F2 on the receiving hammer in Liverpool.

Possibly Mr. I.C. Jackson (scribble unknown, possibly west or nth west Liverpool)

London EC Duplex 98, going to Mexico................
1872

Excuse my ignorance can you explain "hammer" and what do the 3-5-5-3 mean.
sorry my first time looking into cancels so have no clue.

now that you say - Possibly Mr. I.C. Jackson (scribble unknown, possibly west or nth west Liverpool)
looks like west to me.

Thanks for the help so far

Ray

Hammer: Name of the Hand Held Canceller used by Postal Staff.

(If you visited a major Post Office up until the 1960's, one could hear the cacophony of "hammers" as staff hit the envelopes with the hand canceller,
on benches covered with cow hide)

"Duplex" means 2, The Hand held canceller had 2 parts, the CDS (Circular Date Stamp) and the stamp canceller part...the "killer"

Here is an US Duplex, see the CDS and the barred "killer" adjacent



The 3-5-5-3 indicates the bars on the "killer"
3 bars top. 5 little ones left, 5 little one right, and 3 at bottom.

These come in varied formats, clues to the origin.

When the number is in a circle or diamond, it is a London office postmark. Town postmarks don't have the circle or diamond.

This pdf. file should give you an overview of British postmarks:
http://www.philatelicsannex.org/ref...lume%209.pdf
(however, the captions for B and C on page 14 are reversed).

Thank you Rod222 and chipg learned a lot, I never realy took an interest in covers and cancels before
but this has piqued my interest.This is such a great forum with great members nice to have a place to go to get information and advice without feeling uncomfortable.

Thanks to all

Ray

Hi Ray,

The last line of the address is Nr (as in near) Liverpool.

A contemporaneous description of Stanley can be found here:

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/25129

Hope this helps

PS: Welcome to the fascinating world of postal history!

Thank you both.

Thanks Bobby De La Rue great info, thanks again to all


Ray

here is the album page I'm putting together for the cover

Lovely Page Ray.
Suggestions: Number cancellation 98- Blackburn etc.... irrelevant information on this cover, not required.
May confuse new collectors, the 98 in circle is a London Pmk.
"Cancel on the back" may be better described as "Receiving Postmark" or similar.

However, you are on your way, pages like this are fabulous.
What software are you employing?

PS: You may wish to add the Penny Red Letters DP / PD and the Plate number... (I cannot read it from your scan, looks like "?0" )

Further reading on Duplex Hand stamps, and real "hammers" in a Canadian perspective,
Types of "Killers" etc, which may assist understanding.
http://www.postalhistorycanada.net/...ex/intro.php

Thanks Rod222 I put a 0 as I don't know the plate number as yet.thanks for the suggestions I'll make the changes. I'm using AlbumEasy.

To me, the Plate looks like 160
You possibly can look closer with a magnifying glass.

Rod222, will do will let you know, will check it this evening when I get home.
learning every day, all this new information from one envelope.

I posted the other pages that go with this page here https://goscf.com/t/64054#556629

I have corrected the spelling on pg 3 your thoughts on these will be great.
still need some work on them but they 95% done.

Thanks for the help.