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Cartel/Philip Ryle Accounts Still Listing On Ebay

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Posted 07/04/2020   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Banknotes is a known Cartel account and discussed in other threads very recently.
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Posted 07/02/2021   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what?
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Posted 07/03/2021   12:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PPG: So people should be aware of the cartel. The topic falls off of the radar quickly.

PS : Save the snark. I am not looking for your approval on my posts. If you feel that the topic is not worthy of discussion pass it by.

Cheers
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Posted 07/03/2021   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Keeping the Cartel information, and that it seems active, front and center is an undertaking I agree with.

But the listing of three ebay links to specific material, links which will be dead and lead nowhere in a short time is the focus of the "so what?" Mention the old seller IDs are active or what the new seller's IDs are is helpful and will not just produce a dead-end as with old defunct links. Alternately copy images of the material and post it here with an explanation of what to watch out for and be cautious of regarding the seller.

Better than soon to die links would be links to recent or most recent SCF threads or thread which give details of recent "cartel" activity.
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Still worth following in my opinion, especially if he acquires new account names.

I looked at the listings just above and for two of the lots noted, I thought they brought/were allowed to bring what they were worth, what with regumming and faults (clearly shown). Of course, I still wonder if he of his girlfriend has his reperfing machine. The third lot with Columbians had "someone" pushing up the top bid all by himself and finally won the lot for more than I thought it was worth.

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Posted 07/03/2021   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PPG = New SCF Mod

I do not need you telling me what you think I should do or should have done or anything else for that matter. In other words I do not need your opinion.

Here is the deal. I have written numerous posts in great detail about the cartel and recreating the wheel every time gets old. I have followed specific stamps travels between IDs as they are "resold", helped out SCF members, expanded upon everything cartel.

Use the Search function to read all about it.

Again, I enjoy your philatelic posts and input but stow the editorial and behavioral suggestions. I saw this coming when you berated Melbourne Yankee for complaining about Oz Post. Some nonsense about you "coming under fire" and talking about the Florida building collapse. I spent six years from 2005 until 2011 in Iraq and Afghanistan and a lot of s**t happened and I still get to complain about the Postal Service without being scolded and so does Melbourne Yankee. Lots of people have had major hardship and challenges in their lives and still get to think and execute how they wish. Don is a great example of that. Jaxom is a great example of that. And never assume you know what somebody is all about or that you know more because you will be wrong.

To summarize, stop telling people how they should think and what to do.

Peace Out
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Posted 07/03/2021   3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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eBay does not care about a person's criminal record. The ONLY criteria for an ebay account is a bank account of some kind. (I could go open a bank account in my dog's name.) The dirty little secret with ebay is that they do ZERO vetting of the accounts


ebay a US Based company is well within the boundaries of 47 U.S.C. § 230, a Provision of the Communication Decency Act, a United States Law. Generally internet companies are not responsible to police the actions of users except in specific types of trafficking cases. Vetting is not required nor in the company's financial interests, sadly I might add. I do note that in the threads related to "the cartel" I have reviewed, I saw no mention of 230.

The on going frustration vented on SCF could be placed at the feet of the prosecuting authority of Mr. Ringleader which seems to have failed to include a condition of sentencing, no internet use for buying or selling and shutting down of all accounts with which he was/is associated and standard computer restrictions going forward.

Lacking that, knowing the current ebay accounts to avoid is the only useful information for buyers going forward. Venting steam while it feels good does not really help inform others, information does.

Fraud in internet sales bothers me, but the real problem from my point of view is not the fraud, but the ease with which legitimate items can be sold, no questions asked, when those legitimate items are all stolen or fenced property. Faster than a flea market, second hand store, or out of the trunk in a parking lot.


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Again, I enjoy your philatelic posts and input


Thank you, I do try to make them interesting if not helpful.

Feel Free to continue venting, not that my permission is required; however in fairness, understand that when I vent, and I do, it can seem to be done in an editorial manner at times--we share the same steam, just use different valves. Now if I had one SCF member's address, I would gleefully periodically sent out a postcard or postal card with the same two word message, "Get this?"

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