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Hello All, I Picked Up A SC 113 And The Grill Isn't Visible. Alterations? Worn? Have A Look

 
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Posted 10/22/2018   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can tell there is paper adhered to the back from being torn off of its cover.
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Posted 10/23/2018   12:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ckirby1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So I dont know how to soak but I read up and gave it a shot but I dont see anything on the back. Going to upload more pics below




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Posted 10/23/2018   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ckirby1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp is held up against light at various angles
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Posted 10/23/2018   12:33 am  Show Profile Check pascoe's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add pascoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I often lay stamp face down on table and lay a flashlight down on same table a few inches away and point the light at the stamp. A slight variation on Ckirby1's answer. I bet most would say expertisizing is the only way to know for sure of this is the variety without a grill. I favor PSE.
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Posted 10/23/2018   05:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
per the Scott catalogue:in order to be a without grill variety the stamp must have original gum and unhinged or lightly hinged. grills on this series were often very lightly impressed over the gum.
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Posted 10/23/2018   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AJ Valente to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
M_and_M writes "grills on this series were often very lightly impressed over the gum."

I'll need to see your reference on that as the stamps were grilled, gummed, and then perforated.

See, "Studies in Stamps--The United States Two Cent 1869" by Y. Souren, Stamps, March 14, 1949, "As the sheets were gummed by hand, fresh dippings of the gumming brush will gum the stamps slightly more thickly than usual. Sometimes the embossing breaks the paper to such an extent that a little of the gum is absorbed through the stamp onto the surface."

As for the stamp in question, I took the scanned image and filtered it to improve the paper relief. There is a distinct impression of a grill at the right edge as the following image shows.

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Posted 10/25/2018   01:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ckirby1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow ah very nice! Thank you for the insightful feedback! I see it ! The sneaky grill!
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Posted 10/26/2018   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to Brookman, the grills were impressed after the gum was applied, which is why all examples without a grill must have OG. That fact also helps to spot regums.
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