Monaco #1 And #2 Imperf.

Another mystery stamps in my collection.

Monaco Scott #1 and #2 but these are imperforated with no gum. There is no such thing in my Scott Catalog.
Looks very genuine or at least very good fakes.

Any guesses?

[EDIT: typo -- first word should be Can't]

Can't say for sure without physically examining, but based on the appearance of the paper, I would say cutouts from postal stationery. Examples of postal stationery for #1 and #3 are shown below.

khj

Thank you very much! That is exactly what it is (I assume )
Another mystery solved. Scoobi-Doobie-Doo..

Any idea about their value, is it about the same as postal stamps or lower?

Sorry, I don't actively collect postal stationery.

The classic reference work will be the Higgins and Gage World Postal Stationery Catalogue. It's about 20 volumes (ABC order), but I'm not sure which volume the M's are in. The last printing that I know of was in the 1980's, so the prices will be out of date.

A very rough rule of thumb, is that when a design appears as both stamp AND stationery, the stamp version is usually worth more. But there are lots of exceptions. It's more of a demand issue, rather than quantity.

Regarding postal stationery of Monaco, the big bucks are when you have a stamp tied by cancel onto postal stationery (stamp used to pay for higher rate). These whole "covers" in good condition and right combination will easily fetch 3 figures at the proper auctions.

As a general rule, if you see a 19th Century whole cover consisting of a stamp tied onto stationery -- don't cut and soak, but keep it intact and check into the value first.

k

khj,

Thank you again for an important info. I didn't know about premium for stamps tied to stationery. I think I have couple of those.

This one is something different I think. It's not tied to stationary by cancellation.
So what would this be, a Mint US Stationary or used Bermuda cover

Now that's really an interesting cover. It almost looks like the sender didn't have any other envelope handy, but for some reason had an American stamp envelope on hand, affixed Bermuda postage to it and mailed it from Bermuda to Massachusetts!?

While it may not be old enough to be a high premium item, it is certainly a keeper if not just as a conversation piece!

Thanks for posting that pic!

k

I have 2 or 3 more like this. With different countries stamps on US covers. I'll take pics of them later. So I think it could be something different then just a single occasion of not having envelopes. One I clearly remember has I think French stamp right on top of Washington on the similar cover.

Yes, danko, I'd be really interested in seeing those when you have an opportunity! Also, if you don't mind, I will download them. I like to collect these scans of unusual philatelic items. Thanks!

k

Hi Danko.....

About your Bermuda/US cover.......it cannot be considered a mint cover of any sort......it has an address, stamps and cancels applied......the imprint stamp is not canceled.......but it definitely is not a mint US item.

Aside from that......it is quite a curious item....very attractive with the multi-colored stamps. Would love to see the others you mentioned.

Overall it's a very collectable item........and US material used from outside the US is actively hunted by a fair number of collectors.

Here are more covers as promised.







As you can see they all send to the same address. We can only guess what is this all about

khj

You can download as many as you want. I do not have a copyright for these . As a matter of fact, if you want, you can give me your e-mail and I send you hi-res scans.

This one is self explanatory. We got your mail , but if you want to get it pay us 15 cents. Postage due.