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Posted 12/27/2018   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Was looking through a few old and new covers from Newfoundland and came across this oddity...Let me set up the idea to you why I started to see something strange.

There were 6 communities on postal offices.

1 - St. Jacques -------All communities used this postal station.
2 - Coomb's Cove ------All communities used this postal station to.
3 - English Hr. West --Used both 1 and 2 postal stations above.
4 - Mose Ambrose ------Used both 1 and 2 postal stations above.
5 - Boxey -------------Used both 1 and 2 postal stations above.
6 - Wreck Cove --------Used both 1 and 2 postal stations above.

The six communities were incorporated into the single town of St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove in the district of Burin-Burgeo 1972...Which I assumed would now have a cancel called St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove..Makes sense to me.

Now take a look at the cover below...It still uses the old Coomb's Cove cancel pre 1972 amalgamation of 6 towns...

As you can see it is cancelled Feb.27th,2003
..Makes me go hmmmmmm.


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Posted 12/27/2018   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Post office names can always be different from city/town names. So then there's probably a Saint Jacques NL cancel used in 2003. Anyone have a postal guide from around this time to check that?; one after 1972 would do.
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Posted 12/28/2018   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canadianphilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What I find more interesting about this cover is that the recipient is MasterCard so it means there's been a privacy breach because MasterCard should have disposed this cover appropriately (i.e. destroyed it) and it should not be in the hands of a collector. This cover would not have been authorized for sale so it means someone in the mailroom stole this from MasterCard.
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Posted 12/28/2018   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The recipient is MasterCard so it means there's been a privacy breach because MasterCard


Funny thing about that canadianphilatelist...I have about 200 from Master Card from Yukon, Nunavut, and just about every Province in Canada..Go figure eh..

Robert
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Posted 12/28/2018   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I was in charge of an Ontario government's local office mail room in the 70's, there was no requirement to destrroy envelopes mailed in. Many collectors went through them at least through the late 1990s when I left.
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Posted 12/28/2018   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canadianphilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Subsection 4(1) of The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (2000) https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng.../page-1.html defines personal information as "information about an identifiable individual". The return address by itself is not personal information but because the name of the sender is included then it becomes personal information (because now I know where this person lives although the courts might let this one go because the return address is incomplete) and MasterCard has an obligation to protect that personal information pursuant to Division 1 of the aforementioned Act.

Edited to include info in brackets.
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Edited by canadianphilatelist - 12/28/2018 11:22 am
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Posted 12/28/2018   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Canadianphilatelist, maybe no one but mastercard itself is at fault for this getting out.

I know people get buisness correspondence all the time, but usually the stamps are removed from cover or the cover itself has no identifiable information linked. Is it possible someone new at mastercard was not made aware of the laws concerning privacy? Or is it possible the company itself messed up and is trying to maximize profits by selling off its philatelic material while forgetting of the new rules?

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Posted 12/28/2018   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Coomb's Cove cancel appears to be of fairly recent style/manufacture rather than pre-1972.
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Posted 12/28/2018   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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business contact information#8194;means any information that is used for the purpose of communicating or facilitating communication with an individual in relation to their employment, business or profession such as the individual's name, position name or title, work address, work telephone number, work fax number or work electronic address


So as canadianphilatelist suggests, it may be a breach of Business,,,What do you guys think.


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The six communities were incorporated into the single town of St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove in the district of Burin-Burgeo 1972.


John, was jst thinking, if ALL 6 towns were now under St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove..Why would not all mail have the St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove cancel and not the old school Coomb's Cove..???

Robert
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Edited by wert - 12/28/2018 12:21 pm
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Posted 12/28/2018   12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ask them directly. Easier than trying to devine postal logic!
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Posted 12/28/2018   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ask them directly. Easier than trying to devine postal logic!


That is a good idea, but she would probably think I was geek..haha



St. Jacques-Coomb's Cove is quite a distance away from the realCoomb's Cove.

Robert
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Edited by wert - 12/28/2018 1:06 pm
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