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Posted 02/09/2019   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add the columbian to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone I didtn found any other cover like this in the internet.
Its abouth the Oslo contract signed in Washington.

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WASHINGTON, DC - US President Bill Clinton (C) stands between PLO leader Yasser Arafat (R) and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzahk Rabin (L) as they shake hands on September 13, 1993, at the White House in Washington DC.

The cover looks genuine the cancel is dated september 13. 1993.
So it was supposedly sent to some consulate, politician in.
But I didnt see any post receiver on the cover? The return Address should be clear White House...or Im wrong?

What you think did this cover has some historical value? thanks.
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Posted 02/09/2019   09:38 am  Show Profile Check Battlestamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a souvenir philatelic cover for the event. It was never mailed. There's probably not much demand and something like this is usually $1-$5 in a dealer's box.
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Posted 02/09/2019   12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add the columbian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It's a souvenir philatelic cover for the event. It was never mailed. There's probably not much demand and something like this is usually $1-$5 in a dealer's box.


Battlestamps thanks for the education.
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Posted 02/10/2019   12:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has nothing to do with the White House. As Battlestamps said it is just a souvenir "event cover" made by a stamp dealer or a stamp collector who went to a local post office in Washington and had the clerk cancel the stamp and hand it back to the collector or dealer. A dealer might ask $1 for it though no dealer would buy it for that much. I think that it could be a nice start for an inexpensive collection of event covers if you wanted to start collecting this sort of thing.
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Posted 02/10/2019   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add the columbian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kimo Thanks but one uncertainty when this cover is so common why I dont find no other cover like this in the internet?
I put in google target word: oslo contract 1993 cover, israel p.l.o cover, september 13. 1993 washington dc cover.. It didnt show no other cover like this, can you give me a link where I find other identical covers?
I didnt know that this is so common I thought that this is something rare direct from the white house. But your opinion and also that from battlestamps makes sense. Only that I didnt find nothing identical is a bit confusing to me.
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It's not all that unusual to have inexpensive items which you cannot find more easily. No dealer is going to put any effort into showing dollar box items. Plus "common" and "rare" are broad terms involving supply and demand. This is the type of item where the supply is unknown (it might be dozens, hundreds, or thousands), but the demand is still less then the supply. This means that while it might have real philatelic value to those collectors who want one, it does not have much financial value. Almost every collector has items of a similar nature.
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Posted 02/10/2019   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add the columbian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey thanks revcollector very informative.
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Another proof that this cover has nothing to do with the White House is the Zip Code in the cancellation. The District of Columbia is 177 square kilometers in area and because of the density of the population and organizations needing postal codes (Zip Codes) the city is divided for post office purposes into several hundred different zip codes. The zip code for the White House is 20500. The zip code on these philatelic event cover is 20066 which is a small area in the northeastern part of the District of Columbia and is far away from the White House. Also, Revcollector is quite correct that dealers would not bother to advertise such a cover since the time it would take them just to list it would cost them far more than they would get from selling it. When dealers buy modern event covers such as this, and they rarely do since there is almost no demand for them, they can buy them wholesale for a few cents each. But even at that price they cannot make a profit since their time and effort cost them money that they would rather invest in material that will make them a profit over and above the cost of their doing business.
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Posted 02/11/2019   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ok1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Another proof that this cover has nothing to do with the White House is the Zip Code in the cancellation. The District of Columbia is 177 square kilometers in area and because of the density of the population and organizations needing postal codes (Zip Codes) the city is divided for post office purposes into several hundred different zip codes. The zip code for the White House is 20500. The zip code on these philatelic event cover is 20066 which is a small area in the northeastern part of the District of Columbia and is far away from the White House. Also, Revcollector is quite correct that dealers would not bother to advertise such a cover since the time it would take them just to list it would cost them far more than they would get from selling it. When dealers buy modern event covers such as this, and they rarely do since there is almost no demand for them, they can buy them wholesale for a few cents each. But even at that price they cannot make a profit since their time and effort cost them money that they would rather invest in material that will make them a profit over and above the cost of their doing business.


But why if thats so a common souvenir cover of the event, nothing like this is avaiable on eBay etc.?
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ok1,the columbian
Why are you posting under two different names?
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Posted 02/11/2019   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dealers actually do make money off of covers such as this one by creating dollar boxes. A group of cardboard boxes with thousands of covers, each one sells for $1. They are very popular areas at shows; I love to look through them myself. And it's not unheard of to find really nice and valuable items occasionally.
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Posted 02/11/2019   3:18 pm  Show Profile Check Battlestamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not that it is common per se, but that it's worth so little and demand is lacking that's not worth any seller's time to list it.
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Posted 02/11/2019   3:20 pm  Show Profile Check Battlestamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love me some dollar boxes. I've been able to find some really nice covers and have been able to resell some on eBay for much more. Educated guesses and sometimes plain luck of the draw helps.
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Posted 02/11/2019   3:24 pm  Show Profile Check Battlestamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BTW...there was one similar cover for this event that sold on Delcampe for about $1.45.

https://www.delcampe.net/en_US/coll...7708727.html
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ok1/the Columbian,
One last chance, why are you running two different accounts?
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Posted 02/11/2019   3:35 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We have no place for morons, he is axed.

This guy was playing games, listing he was in USA when he is not, using two user accounts to make it look like he was two different people (see this thread http://goscf.com/t/65544&whichpage=2 )


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