Having Trouble With These 3 Scott Numbers

2 part question -

1) So I am back to trying to find these ID's & Scott numbers for these 3 stamps. I thought I had it but then, not.... Can anyone please help?






2) In working on the above, I found the below on hipstamp. In reviewing the lot, I notice that some of the stamps, the 20, 120 and 190pf have Berlin on them but the others do not. Is this correct? Why would some have it and some not for the same lot? Tks much!

Yes, that is correct. Some German definitives, especially in the 40's and 50's were issued in both West Germany and West Berlin.
You can find your stamps on www.stampworld.com .

Peter

tks Peter. I did look there but I guess I dont know how to use the site very well. could get them to come up. so the lot I listed above from hipstamp is from the 70's - it is correct for them to list both the Berlin and non - Berlin in the same Scott no.'s ? I would expect them to have different numbers and lots.

I do not think it is correct to mix them up, but then someone can sell them any way they want to.

Peter

yep, your right. just looking for the confirmation that they were mis-id'd. tks

So I double checked on stampworld - without knowing what time period these are from I dont see how to narrow it down. I searched by pfg, but no luck - I did not see them. Something close but not the correct ones. Where did you see them? Tks

Try Berlin 1956.

redwoodrandy - I should be able to in a bit. Tks! I did go back and double check the other link again, stampworld and this is all I get. Not sure where randy id seeing them?????

Randy gave you the clue. Go to the Germany index and you will see "Berlin" - that is what you want. Back in the days after WWII Berlin was a separate stamp-issueing entity, next to West Gemany

Peter

Try Berlin 1977.

These are stamps from 2 different sets. The middle stamp is from 1956, Scott # 9N126. The 1st and 3rd stamp are from 1977, 9N394 & 9N401. They are all back of the book German stamps issued for use in Berlin.

Peter & redwood --- tks again. I did try Berlin, but I was looking in the Scott cat. I mentioned as thats what I use. I did not see Berlin they figured you were referring back to the website. tks. Still a little confused - I did find the places in Scott - tks wildwood. But, the listing for 9N126 refers to pic A24, which above the desc. is a radio tower not building - at least in the 2019 Scott catalogue. That was confusing to me.

A24 only refers to the orientation of the stamp. Look at the description of the stamp, 10pf emerald with a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm church. Look at your stamp, 10pf emerald with writing at top that says Kaiser Wilhelm ...kirche (German for church)

Okay - tks again. I did read the desc. and saw that it matched my stamp. But not until after you had led me there as I missed it the 1st time as I was looking at the pic too.

Sooo, the catalogue says that those - A23, A24, etc.., - are illustration numbers that point, in the legend in the front of the catalogue, to the stamp its describing. Its not correct in this case, right? The desc. is correct, but the picture of the stamp is for the 7pf radio station not the KW Church ???

Yes, with the larger series, Scott will often create a reference picture for only the different orientations and sizes. Sometimes for smaller sets they don't even do that, but rather in the descriptions will write "vert " if the reference picture is a horizontal orientation and vice-versa. Can make it very difficult finding the stamp in the catalog if one has no idea that is happening.