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Classification 2 Cents Washigton

 
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Posted 03/07/2019   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pisti1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
good morning

I enclose 2 Cent images of my collection that I would like to classify, if possible

thank you so much Simone

1) dent. 12 x 12





2) dent. 12 vertical



3) dent. 10 orizontal





4) dent 10 vertical




5) dent. 11 x 11




6) dent. 11 x 11





7) dent. 12 x 12








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Posted 03/07/2019   2:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My quick pass comes up with:
1. 406
2. Appears to be either 353/388 but perfs look created
3. 450 appearing but perfs look created
4. 453 ... ditto on the perfs
5. 461/499 depending on watermark of not
6. 528A
7. 332/375 depending on watermark
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Posted 03/07/2019   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mstamping to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
caper123, how do you determine created perfs? Is it just how inconsistent they look? Or something else?
Thank you Brian
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Posted 03/08/2019   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Except for Scott 459 which is more expensive than Scott 453, rotary press coils of the period were only issued with perforations. Rotary press coils were perforated with a bar perforator with the result that perforation holes were elongated in the direction of the coil instead of the direction of the line of perforations. Scratch the 450/488 watermarked/unwatermarked vertical coil pair and type II watermarked 454 horizontal coil pair from the list of coils with possible fake perforations. The horizontal coil is type II, not type I. Type II unwatermarked Scott 491 coils are very scarce and require a certificate to sell.
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no. 3: Scott #450 (single line watermark) or 488 (unwatermarked) I agree is genuine. I thought the bottom perfs were a little too sharp/clean, but they do have genuine characteristic fuzz/paper chips in some of the perf holes, and gauge correctly. Simone, this is a pasteup pair, showing how imperf sheets were assembled by hand then perfed and cut into coil strips.
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Posted 03/08/2019   01:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The type III vertical rotary press coil pair, most likely Scott 488 unwatermarked or less likely Scott 450 watermarked is a normal pair with creased center perforations. Rotary press coils were printed on a continuous web of paper, unlike flat plate coils printed in sheet format and perforated in one direction and then cut in half to be pasted up into 10-wide rolls before striping into coil rolls. Earlier double line and some single line perf 12 coils were cut from sheets, perforated in one direction, into strips of 20 stamps and then pasted up to make up coil rolls.

Rotary press coil pairs would sometimes be spliced at a break with perforated gummed paper tape on the gum side of the broken coil.
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Hi Pisti,
Nice post. This is a good way to get help with the WFs. Looks like the other lads have covered it well here. The more you work with them, the more familiar you will become, so don't give up. This is a very daunting area of US collecting.

EDIT: Agree with cfphoto that the 450 has weak perfs, as result of a crease, it's not a paste up pair.
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Edited by ClassicPhilatelist - 03/08/2019 03:19 am
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Posted 03/08/2019   05:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pisti1978 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the classification of these stamps, they are really difficult to classify, as soon as I can move the others with a new topic, greetings Simone
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