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Needing Help With Identifying This 2c Washington Pair

 
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Posted 03/07/2019   01:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Gswarriorz510 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have no clue which Scott number this one may be. Any information is much appreciated! Thanks!



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Posted 03/07/2019   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Gswarrior,
You've got an imperf coil pair, 409H (so it's essentially a09 that were made into coils for use in private vending machines. But some never got "perfed" so, this is the result.
You can tell it quite easily, because if you look at 2Cents2 if we narrow down flat plate and imperf, it only gives us 2 options. 409 and 482, but the 482 were never used for coils. So once we can see this is a coil pair, which is clear by the level cut of your stamp, the only optino since they are horizontal pair is 409H. If they were vertical pair, they would be a 409V. See these in Scott Specialized catalog in the Imperforate Flat Plate COils, which follows just after Private vending around page 570 depending on the year of issue of your catalog.
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Oh ok cool thanks for the information I really appreciate it
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Top and bottom edges are definitely scissor-cut, thus NOT a 409H coil. You will have to watermark your pair to determine whether it is a regular 409 or 482.
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Posted 03/07/2019   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John,
I think what you are seeing is a curling in the stamp, not a scissor cut. It's hard with angles on stamps. I will accept, I could be wrong, but most of the pairs like this are horizontal coils. The face down image is more deceptive than the face up image.
Where as left and right cut, is clearly at an angle.
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John Becker is correct. The overall height of the pair is more than would be expected for a coil pair. Auto-wound coil edges are normally straight and parallel to within about 0.001 inch. Exceptions occurred on early watermarked coils because one edge of the sheet was not cut by the coiling machine. An additional knife was soon added. Very occasionally, the edge of the web did not engage one of the outside cutting knives. Expert examination would be required in that case.
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Posted 03/08/2019   02:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gswarriorz510 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks y'all for the feedback!
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Posted 03/08/2019   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicPhilatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's fair.
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