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1948 Great Britain #268 - Block Of 6

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Posted 03/20/2019   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SewallH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeez. It is a tough crowd on this chat board. I took everyone's advice and made adjustments to the ebay listing.

As to dutchman's comments about my low ebay rating and 2 negative ebay ratings, I take great exception. Dutchman, you have no clue what you are talking about regarding my negative ratings and their background. And you think that my response to them was damaging? I take great insult at your comments. I will not let this insult and pathetic insinuations from you without a response.

My ebay ratings over the past 12 months are 237 positive and 2 negative. All my qualitative ratings are 5 stars. I am not a professional ebay seller or a dealer. The 2 negative responses were from the same buyer relating to the same item issue (the negative responses were identical and double posted by ebay - the buyer posted the same thing twice: one for the each of the two stamps she agreed to buy). The buyer purchased two stamps and asked for combined shipping (I has not offered this is my listings by the way). I was happy to oblige the buyer and dropped my shipping costs significantly at her request. The shipping cost, which was a whopping $2.50 if I remember correctly, did not satisfy the buyer, who then sent me a message claiming that I was committing fraud. It was outrageous. I then looked at the buyer's ebay listings and she had listed two of the exact same variety stamps that she had purchased from me for a price 5 times what she freely bid (and that was more than 5 times what the stamps were worth) and also had a shipping cost of $6 per item. It was ridiculous and outrageous. I relisted the stamps and sold them promptly to another buyer on the same terms that she had promised to pay. I have been on ebay for 14 years with no issues. So you can just stuff it with your insinuations.

I did not establish this thread on this chat board to get some baloney commentary on how I conduct my ebay listings, my ebay status, my shipping costs, my inclusion of grading information, my integrity, or how to sell a stamp. I was very precise. I had an unusual block of stamps that I was unable to find any comparables. The block appeared as if could be rare, and possibly valuable, as I could find no comparables. I asked for opinions as to price/value and that was it! I did not ask for all this other commentary, personal and otherwise.
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Posted 03/20/2019   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SewallH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
perf,

thanks for the listing info for this other sheet of 20 stamps. It is very helpful. Much thanks. The previous listing posted by another member sold for $800. The current seller had two of these sheets of 20. This first one sold for $520. He is asking the same for the second.

I would also make the following comment regarding this ebay listing. The ebay seller claims boldly in capitals "GEORGE VI £1 1948 SILVER WEDDING COMPLETE SHEET MNH ABSOLUTELY SUPERB SG494".

"ABSOLUTELY SUPERB".

I think you will not be surprised that this "superb" claim is total hogwash. And some "smart" members of this chat board ridicule me for grading my stamps! What complete idiot would ever pay $500 for these stamps on the simple unsupported claim on ebay that they are "Superb" without figuring out whether this was really the case? Not only are these stamps not "Superb", they are not even "Extra Fine". They are not even "Very Fine". They are centered Fine 62 to be exact, which is country miles away from being "Superb". There is no image of the back of the stamp sheet either. One can adjust the grade up and down from Fine 62 as they see fit, but Fine 62 is it in my opinion. The difference between Fine and Superb in this stamp is only a mere 100% in catalogue value.

People here can opine endlessly all they want about how I describe my stamp listings, but it is for the above that I do the things the way I do.

Also, 51 studbaker commented that the 44 views on ebay was because of this stamp thread. That is totally incorrect. I had put up the stamp listing well before I posted anything here about this stamp. I already had +30 views in the first six hours after listing on the stamp before I even posted here. I listed the stamps at 10am and did not post here until 4pm. For a listing of mine to get +30 views after being up for ebay auction after a full week would be amazing, let alone the first 6 hours.

It was only after I saw so many views on this stamp that I thought it best for me to approach this stamp community about the stamps' value in case I was making a serious undervalue mistake.
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Posted 03/20/2019   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, what happened to the listing? Have you pulled it?

I wish I could have seen the original version. My favourite bit of the revised version was:

"In today's dollars, that equates to 450 British pounds!!!! Good grief."

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Posted 03/20/2019   2:51 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sewal - you may misunderstand the concept of "fine" etc in UK (and, I think, general European) philately. It does not deal with centring, but with the condition of the stamp.
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Posted 03/20/2019   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well regardless of everything else the used bloc is scarce.Perhaps it was for revenue purposes.Do the other blocks have the same cancel type or (more readable)?While your at it,
maybe post pics of the other two? Closeups on the cancels?
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Posted 03/20/2019   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure why all the heartburn on this thread. I have always felt that used blocks are under valued and to see a 60 year old block of £1 stamps can't be common. These also have light cancels and they surely came from a parcel since £6 was quite a bit of money then. They don't have the usual heavy smeared parcel cancels often found. I can't tell you the retail value but I can tell you that you will find blocks of unused stamps much easier than finding blocks showing genuine postal use.
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Posted 03/20/2019   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As stallzer pointed out ;parcel post.Didn't think of that.An example;it's still way below the 6£ ,but perhaps the 3 blocks originated from the same source.Heavy
parcels would of been quiet expensive in those days.

https://www.stampboards.com/viewtop...f=13&t=26993
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Posted 03/20/2019   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The above information is correct.

However, there is damage involved, and the reason for the light cancels is that they appear to be revenue cancels.
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Posted 03/20/2019   3:57 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe that this group was anywhere near a parcel - it would be wildly over applicable parcel post rates.

I also believe that, if collectors were interested in blocks, they'd want (a) a mint group of four; and (b) an attendant cylinder number. This may be scarcer, but I suspect that demand is very limited.
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Posted 03/20/2019   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some interesting pics on expensive mailings.(Just before 1948)
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtop...f=17&t=60109

£20/5 a record? (Photo Stampboards)


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Edited by perf12 - 03/20/2019 4:09 pm
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Posted 03/20/2019   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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you will find blocks of unused stamps much easier than finding blocks showing genuine postal use.


100% correct. There's more than one member of the trade in Australia highlighting this fact.
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Posted 03/20/2019   4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glad we clear the air here ..........but the price for a block of 6 in very fine condition still stands ,until someone offers a better price ....it stands as the posted price in public ......until a buyer raises my bid price ,that's the price .
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Posted 03/21/2019   04:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A specialist collector would pay over the odds for something that is probably unique or something that they are unlikely to see for many years if ever, so I see no problem with the price. They wouldn't care about the 2 negatives from obviously a stupid buyer, the OTT desciption and silly grading nor the fact that they have to contact you for postage to the UK, the obvious home of such a specialist.

However, they might not find the listing in the first place.

My Greatest Stamps - 1948 Great Britain #268 block of 6 - graded VF 72

I suggest you add 'GB' 'Royal Silver Wedding' and 'SG494' to your description.
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Posted 03/21/2019   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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and the reason for the light cancels is that they appear to be revenue cancels


A tax of £6? That's a pretty steep tax, not sure what the value of something had to be in 1948ish to generate a tax of that amount. Perhaps if we could get the original poster to actually provide a high resolution scan of one of the stamps so we can get a better look at the cancel it would certainly help end the speculation.

£6 wouldn't be unheard of for a heavy overseas parcel. Especially if sent by a business. Also in the original post the poster mentioned "plate blocks of 6", I see no plate numbers?
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Posted 03/21/2019   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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A specialist collector would pay over the odds for something that is probably unique or something that they are unlikely to see for many years if ever, so I see no problem with the price. They wouldn't care about the 2 negatives from obviously a stupid buyer, the OTT desciption and silly grading nor the fact that they have to contact you for postage to the UK, the obvious home of such a specialist.


I respectfully disagree with you. I am a British collector of KGVI and am his target market - I would run a mile from this ad. It boils down to the preceived credibility and trustworthiness of the seller. For example, when he says,

"this is a showpiece of rarity and it would serve as a cornerstone "modern" (post 1930's) philatelic piece in any fine British, European, Global, or royalty themed stamp collection." - I can smell it from here.

If I had this (somewhat tatty) piece in my collection, it wouldn't be one of my prized assets, much less a cornerstone of my entire lifelong collection (which, incidentally, is modest compared to some).

He is trying to convince us of something which isn't so - trustworthiness...

As for the rest, "A used block of 6 must be scarce, if not very rare" - wow - so you say I'm unlikely to find another one then. But wait...

"I found this block not too long ago in a big bag of loose modern stamps" - and says he found two more as well. So how rare is it?

And let's be honest, who knows for sure if this really was postally used?

Credibility? Not for me.

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