Scott 63, German States

So I was having trouble finding this in my album. I was expecting it to be in with Germany, Scott International Album Part II, but found it in Part I under Bavaria..... Anyhow, Scott catalogue says it should be 14 1/2 perf and Im getting 14 x 14 1/2. Do I have the wrong ID or measuring wrong? Thoughts please. Tks. much. I do also see the Wmk 95h.

Your stamp in Michel catalog : #56
Year : 1888
Perf 14 1/2
Watermark 4 (narrow horizontal wavy lines)

Realize the numbers in catalogs are often rounded to the nearest half. Measuring a few used that I have, the top perfs and bottoms measure 14.25, the sides measure 14.5. So there's the difference. Some of the top perf holes on this one look deepened to obscure short perfs; that could throw off perf gauge measurement. It's not an expensive stamp, I know, but it still appears to be "improved".

Hi,

Under Michel and more under Peter Sem,

These were issued in 1888, 1900 and 1920. Two type of papers and two type of perforations and for the extremist, two colors on the Bx.

Comb perfs 14

Perf A and B, A: small holes, B: normal like this one

Paper x, 1888, y, 1900 and y, 1920.

In this case it is a Mi.Nr.56Bx

Here one of my cover having two Nr.56By

Best regards

Hornet

Tks. Im using a Scott catalogue, 2019. I dont see this stamp under or after 1920, regular postage???? I still think its a Scott 63 with the perf's being a little off. I didnt realize the perf. no.'s were rounded in the catalogue's.

I dont have a Mitchell catalogue or conversion to Mitchell. Is 56 Mitchell the same as Scott 63?

What do you mean by Bx ?

Tks again

Tks much. Interesting on the rounding. I never knew that. Another variable to consider now.

What do you mean by "improved" ? Faked / forged? Or better than ordinary condition?

tks again.

thanks vayolene - guessing that converts to Scott 63? Sorry, I had the wrong no. in the title(65).....

Ok, so now I feel like a...., well, never mind. What I have been trying to do is identify duplicates for stamps I am sorting and comparing to albums that I got which were my father's. What I could not figure out 1st of all was why Bavaria was not listed in the Germany section. Answered that one. Then when I got to the Bavaria album, I did not see the stamp here in question in the appropriate dating. I saw some on the 1st picture above, but wondered why they would not have been listed in regular pages with dates. I also saw some listed on the regular dated pages, but saw no date. Just now, the light bulb went off and I discovered the dates were covered by an inserted duplicate stamp - see picture 2. So Im still guessing its a Scott 63. Another lesson learned - look under duplicates covering dates





Haven't verified yet, but the ones on the blank page look to be different perfs than the dated page. Investigating.

Hi,

Yes, Nr.63 under Scott.

Yours is on tone paper (Which you don't see under Scott)

So under Michel and Peter Sem Cat, yours is a Nr.56Bx

B = Normal holes

x = Tone paper before 1900. y = White paper, issued 1900 to 1911.

The Scott 62, 63, 72 have been re-used in 1920.

Salutation

Hornet

Thanks Hornet - there's a lot to this!!

Hi,

Ok, first, the design was used from 1876 to 1911 (Forget the old currency KREUZER from 1867-1875)

So without Cat number and using Scott Watermark number:

1876-1881

1876 Perf 11 1/2 Watermark 95 (3 Pf, 5 green, 10, 20, 25, 50)

1878 Perf 11 1/2 Watermark 95 (5 Pf violet, 50)

1881 Perf 11 1/2 Watermark 95v (3 Pf, 5 violet, 10, 20, 25, 50)

1888-1900

1888 Perf 14 1/2 Watermark 95h (3 Pf, 5 violet, 10, 20, 25, 50)

1890 Perf 14 1/2 Watermark 95h (3 Pf brown, 5 green, 25, 50)

1900 Perf 14 1/2 Watermark 95h (2 Pf grey, 30, 40, 80)

1911 Perf 14 1/2 Watermark 95v (5 Pf green)

Mark value stamps it is another story.

So with that you can have fun sorting your stamps. They can not be mixed once you know Perf and Watermark.

Here a link in german more specialized

https://pfgzeit.hpage.de/wappen-37-75.html

Nice stamps there!

Best regards

Hornet

Hi Stamps4Life,

Your 6 KREUZER Brown with the two circle postmark is a very good keeper!!! I think I see NÜRNBERG in 1856? It's not the town but
the type of postmark. A good 50.00$ +++

Here one of mine

Hornet

Hi Hornet - tks for all the info AND the link. A lot there. Here is another pic I took. Doesnt look quite as good as in real life but im sure theres a natural order in either taking the pic then cropping or vice versa then enlarging, etc... Sometimes I get better ones than other times.

Hi,

Nice, looks like a plate 3, 4 corners sharp. Beside the ink smear from cancellation, it's a good one.

The 3 KREUZER blue is another sport.

Hornet

Hi Stamps4Life,

If you can show me all your KREUZER stamps, may be I can find something interesting.

Hornet

so I broke my sd card when I was trying to get a better shot of the above. will do once I get a replacement. tks!