Scott 554 In Deep Claret ?

Hello,

I just saw for the first time the entry in Scott that there is a "deep claret" color for the 554 2c stamp?

I have seen many 554, but not claret. And isn't deep claret also a color very similar to lake color, but 554 is not known in lake either?

I did not find any "claret" description where ever I look. I mean "deep claret" means a deep, very obvious claret, not a claret similar to carmine.

Has anybody an example or a link to an example?

Just as this is interesting, I looked now in Scott specialized for all stamp from the Bank Note era until 1930s and did not find even a single stamp that has, like the 554, a color entry without any value, but dashes.

I know that the dash is not meaning rare, and the thread is not about a rare variety of 554 anyway. I only wondered how a color could escape from all my looks at so many 554 stamps.

So I guess this entry is perhaps in error, and not appearing in later Scott editions? (my edition is 2013)

If it's still there today, there must have been a stamp once that was 554 and deep claret.

For the Scott Catalogue to make a new listing for a shade there would need to be a certificate from PF, PSE or APEX calling a Scott 554 as being in a deep claret shade. Normal Scott policy is to only add a listing when an item has been certified by a recognized organization or they have seen the item in person.

Thank you. I was not sure if the color is maybe well known beneath many collectors and I just did not see enough 554s yet. So I understand your answer into the direction that the color is not a normal and common variety, but something more uncommon. I think it's an interesting case as no other stamp in Scott has been given such a color variety with dash only. (actually there are other stamps which have more colors than mentioned in Scott, so the 554 must have been a certified stamp I guess) Is it with dash also in the current edition?

It is listed in the 2019 Scott U.S. Specialized with no entry for unused and a dash for used.

Thank you. Ok, so it seems that there was a used item one day. I searched in the PF and Siegel databases and did not find any entry for 554 and claret. Interesting stamp color, I will have a second look at some 554s.

Stamperix, I researched the Scott U. S. Specialized catalogs I happen to have for this 554 deep claret listing and found it listed (as I described in my post above) in the 2008 Scott U. S. Specialized and every subsequent Scott U. S. Specialized catalog I have up to and including the 2019 edition. It is not listed in my 2004 Scott U. S. Specialized or in any previous Scott U. S. Specialized that I have. This could perhaps indicate that a discovery copy arose somewhere in the interim between the 2004 and 2008 editions and was then listed. Sorry, I do not have the 2005, 2006, or 2007 editions.

Hello and thank you for looking into your catalogues. And in the meantime I really found it in the APEX database, it's certificate 173358 from 2007.

https://classic.stamps.org/ShowStam...g/173358.jpg

So now we know the source of it. When I look at the image, it could also be a lake color. But as always we can't be sure because of the image processing. In each case, this color is kind of "familiar", I am sure I have seen it before on this design, but perhaps on the 634 or perf 10.

By the way it's great that you can see the certificates / stamps at APEX and search for them, PF also offers this (and Siegel for their auctions, of course), only PSE does not offer a search function, correct? (the cert. ID search is not useful for finding a Scott ID or keyword...)