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Tin Shed Flaw (?) On 1d KGV.

 
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Posted 07/29/2019   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add finches to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wondering if missing perfs left of 3 caused stamps appearance when separated from adjoining stamp due to gum.
Members opinion appreciated.

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Posted 07/29/2019   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did the front slide off the backing? Could we see a picture of the backside, please?
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Posted 07/29/2019   01:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Louise... Yes, anything unusual is Scanned then put away.....finding a stamp, occasionally, takes more time than Noah's Ark was built so to speak. P.S. Stamp is still attached to part envelope.
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Posted 07/29/2019   03:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Opinion.
Normal stamp, detritus still attached RHS, LHS missing perfs due to prev owner ripping from the cover.
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Posted 07/30/2019   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tin Shed flaws were caused by gum being transferred on the faces of stamp sheets, and are typically revealed when stamps are soaked by collectors. This is obviously unsoaked and is probably out of the Tin Shed period besides.

Inconstant flaws can still happen otherwise. The area of concern is probably as indicated:

However, based on the dirt smudge above it, it might be just scuffed/abraded there before cancelling. That seems to be true for the area where the perfs were pulled off. Holding it at a low angle to the light would tell you if that is so or not.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 07/30/2019 12:09 am
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Posted 07/30/2019   02:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Basically all stamps that have flaws that are not constant printing flaws are "Tin Sheds".

The term "Tin Shed" covers a lot of ground!

Some try to limit what a "Tin Shed" describes.

I am not one of them!
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Posted 07/30/2019   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If this is correct why is there a G & a 3 being part of the postmark on the area of the stamp in question? It had to be damaged/Tin Shed before being attached to the envelop.



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Normal stamp, detritus still attached RHS, LHS missing perfs due to prev owner ripping from the cover.

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Edited by KGV Collector - 07/30/2019 8:00 pm
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Posted 07/30/2019   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It had to be damaged/Tin Shed before being attached to the envelop.


Well if you make a statement "it had to be" why ask a question?
You already have a fixed view.
Whatever I may reply would be futile.


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Posted 07/30/2019   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/31/2019   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John,
all is cool. Gives us an instance where we can reflect on our speech.

It may well be a "Tin Shed"
however,
1. poor scan ( appraise a diamond ring from 10 feet away)
2. What if two stamps were caught together by tacky gum, before being separated ?
3. Generally found on rough paper, ours look smooth.
4. The were called Tin Shed flaws in reference to the primitive conditions under which the stamp were printed. The Tin Shed was the King's Warehouse, Flinders Street Extension, Melbourne, where the Commonwealth Stamp Printer was located.
These varieties mostly occur on smooth paper 1d Reds of 1917-18 (poor wartime paper), though they do crop up on other values.

My opinion remains, but happy to apologise if I see a certificate.
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Edited by rod222 - 07/31/2019 12:10 am
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Posted 07/31/2019   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Just a point for us all, to try and always allow for differing opinions.


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If this is correct why is there a G & a 3 being part of the postmark on the area of the stamp in question? It had to be damaged/Tin Shed before being attached to the envelop.


An obvious example from my collection.... Tin Shed ?...I think not.

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Posted 07/31/2019   01:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No worries Rod.

Yeh! Could have put it in better way looking at it now. Sorry mate!

But I do believe also that this stamp has been damaged when being taken from the envelop make even harder to get a handle on it.


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Basically all stamps that have flaws that are not constant printing flaws are "Tin Sheds"


Am using "Basically" to cover examples like yours. But so many flaws came from paper bits and pieces stopping the print from the stamp's surface as well etc.





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Edited by KGV Collector - 07/31/2019 01:40 am
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