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Posted 08/05/2019   09:17 am  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add docgfd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Posted 08/05/2019   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Crashed.
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Posted 08/05/2019   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I guess no serious philatelists went to that museum for the last 20 years. Seems like something that a competent philatelist would notice fairly easily.
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Posted 08/05/2019   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not good to have it hanging on a wall for 20 years and slowly fading to oblivion.
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Posted 08/05/2019   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The headline in the news article is incorrect - it isn't a fake - it is a photographic copy of an inverted jenny cut out of a magazine or catalogue
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Posted 08/05/2019   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love how local news (a) has no picture of the stamp or even of the so-called museum where the stamp was displayed, and (b) in place of a picture, they put up the exact words the "news person" is saying -- as if we couldn't understand her. Is this how news is done in small town America? Wow.

More importantly, how does anyone mix up a small photo of a stamp (glued to a board?) with the real stamp? What was it P.T. Barnum said?
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Posted 08/06/2019   02:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More info on the museum

The Iowa Aviation Museum in Greenfield, Iowa
http://flyingmuseum.com/

https://www.nonpareilonline.com/new...fd3e971.html

https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/E...6065031.html


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Posted 08/06/2019   02:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How on earth could anyone mistake a catalogue cutout to be the genuine stamp? In the first place, the texture won't be right.
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Posted 08/06/2019   04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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...It was originally in a cork board and plastic screen display case with other airmail stamps, but they removed it some time afterwards because the sun was fading it and they wanted to secure it...

Things I do not understand...
1. Any museum should understand what it means to be a good steward of historical items and understand general conservation practices
2. Any museum should know how to do discovery on items even if the item is not in their 'wheelhouse'
3. Any museum should know to verify a display before opening it to the public
4. Did the museum give the person tax donation documentation?
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Posted 08/06/2019   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Did the museum give the person tax donation documentation?


Heh, that's an interesting question.
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Posted 08/06/2019   11:04 am  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A post by APS' Scott English on another MB, responding to Ken Lawrence:

"We asked for a scan and the best we got was a poor camera phone image. Ken Martin and I expressed serious doubt the stamp was genuine after we saw the image, but since they were willing to come to the show, we agreed to inspect it. If nothing else, the possibility of being wrong was there. These folks were not tech savvy, but they were convinced they had a Jenny because "stamp collectors came in and confirmed it 'looked' real."
It was originally in a cork board and plastic screen display case with other airmail stamps, but they removed it some time afterwards because the sun was fading it and they wanted to secure it. On the back of the Board was a note that the Jenny had sold for $76,000. Wayne Youngblood viewed the original and they were disappointed to learn it was fake. They were so sure this was real they went through all these extra steps before they would even agree to bring the stamp to the show, including asking for biographies for Wayne and I to confirm our bonafides.
There are many people who had a long lost uncle or brother-in-law who owned a Jenny at some point. More often than not, it's a philatelic big fish story. Hopefully we get a chance to educate some folks and promote APEX along the way.
Scott"
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Posted 08/06/2019   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I love how local news (a) has no picture of the stamp or even of the so-called museum where the stamp was displayed, and (b) in place of a picture, they put up the exact words the "news person" is saying -- as if we couldn't understand her. Is this how news is done in small town America? Wow.


(a) The station is in Cedar Rapids and the "stamp" was either in Greenfield or Omaha at the time of reporting, at least 185 miles or a 3-hour drive to the west. Sorry, this story doesn't justify rolling a production truck to the location to get original video and copyright concerns mean they can't broadcast images from the internet.

(b) The story was first run on broadcast and then a copy was moved to their website for streaming. When this is done, it's extremely common to add superimposed captions. It's called accessibility, because not everyone can hear.

So not "Wow." Nothing wrong with how this was done given the relative importance of the story (low) to a mass market audience.
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