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Hi, I'm new to stamp collecting, and I recently discovered an old album That was my grandfathers, is there any possibility that this stamp is one of the valuable variety?. 
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One point to highlight on that page:
Flat plate perf 11: 1,459,487,085 issued Rotary waste perf 11: 43 examples known
Pretty long odds that any perf 11 Harding will be the rare #613. |
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Just wondering. These stamps were likely printed in sheets of 100 or 400. Why does the total end in 085? Did they take out ones damaged in printing and only count those actually sent to the post offices? |
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So in order to distinguish the rare version of this stamp from the common I have to measure the side of the design and it should measure 22 1/2mm? |
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51 Studibaker...Don,
'Interesting to say the least' reading the following from Appendix 1 for the first time......"STAMP SMARTERS Rotary press Rarities". then the Penny dropped.
Quote... A rotary press perf 11 stamp is not the same as a flat plate perf 11 on 552, also used on the coil waste stamp (594) or sheet waste stamp (596).
Start with correct use of a perforation gauge and accurate perforation measurements The first attribute of catalog number 596 is that it has perforations of gauge 11 on all sides. This does not mean 11 holes, or 11 tips, on any side. It means the gauge of the perforations is 11; gauge is defined as the number of perforation holes in a linear distance of 2 cm.
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2˘ Flat Plate Perf 11 1,459,487,085 issued First Day: Sept. 1, 1923 On the stampsmarter site which is a very informative site. I collect Harding's separately. Is the above number of issues correct?
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1,459,487,085 is also the quantity given in Scott. Scott notes that the quantity may be one of 4 possibilities: # sold, approximate # sold, # delivered to post offices, or # printed. Unfortunately, Scott does not let us know which of those 4 possibilities for any given stamp. |
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I have distinguished that the stamp is a perf 11 so do I now need to measure the stamp?  |
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| Edited by DanCafc1995 - 08/27/2019 11:05 am |
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Measurement by ruler is not the way to go. Instead, measure your stamp against a rotary press stamp that would be similar in size to the rare Harding. Use the link provided in Don's earlier post to learn which stamp(s) are best used for comparison. Added: The idea is to determine whether your stamp is a flat plate or rotary press stamp. There are two perf 11 Hardings, one printed via each method. Comparing your stamp to a known flat plate or rotary press stamp can help determine which it is. You can also check the reverse side of the stamp for "setoff" … this is ink left on the stamp when sheets were stacked during the drying process. Setoff on rotary stamps is rare while it is common on flat plates. |
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| Edited by JLLebbert - 08/27/2019 11:18 am |
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The op needs to be aware that we are talking about a .25 mm difference in height. Comparing it to another rotary press design's dimensions is not really that indicative of anything. A .25 mm is pretty much something that needs to be done at an expert level and the odds of this becoming number 51 in the census are slim to none. Not being harsh, just practical. |
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All I can see on the reverse of the stamp is the black mark from where it has been stamped on the front, I'll try and get a picture up but can't seem too be able to upload it. |
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