What Does US Stamped Envelope Watermark 75 And 81 Look Like? I Assume That Is The Year Issued.

Any help with images for Scott saying '75 and '81 for Scott U45.

U45 is a 40c black and red entire on buff or on salmon buff diagonally laid paper and occurs only as a large envelope (105 X 249 mm) or as a cut square. Watermark is # 1, POD over US. Forgeries of the cut square exist.

The numbers you mention are years and should be related to manufacture dates of the envelope. Scott assigns 1861 as the original manufacture date of U34 through U45 with U36, the 3c letter sheet, withdrawn from sale in 1864.

3193zd: could you please tell us where you are seeing '75 and '81?

I can't connect your question with jobi01's response. (I have no issue with jobi01's info, by the way.)

Also, when you reference U45, are you referring to a Scott catalog number, or a Scott indicium label? Unfortunately, Scott has chosen to use the same format for the two.

Hi Tom, They are Scott U167 and Scott U171. What is the common water mark also just to be sure.

W5 common to both.
U167 sizes 6, 7, 8, 10, 21.
U171 size 10, only known used

U167:



U171 (but on fawn paper):

isn't scott U167 also on fawn paper? That is what Scott has in 2017 specialized.

I also have Scott U164 with a W2 watermark.Is that common? No star. they also have a cream down for Scott U165. And I don't have a color sample to compare for that. I have the color chart you made a while back for this series.

"isn't scott U167 also on fawn paper? "

The scan for U167 above IS fawn

Not so for the other.

"Scott U164 with a W2 watermark.Is that common?"

Yes.

"I have the color chart you made a while back for this series."

Are you sure it was for this series? I'm remembering differently.

Specifically, cream wasn't a choice in that chart.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I have this one I've been considering cream. Would love to see a color chart for these.

You are correct it was the next series here it is.