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Special Paper Varieties (563, 564, 566, 567, 568, 569, And C11)

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Posted 02/06/2020   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even though these are not U.S. stamps, the pictures cover two different situations that can affect the size of the stamp design frames.


Two wet printed stamps with different paper grain direction.


A wet and a dry printed stamp both with vertical paper grain.
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Edited by jogil - 02/06/2020 11:14 am
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Posted 02/09/2020   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matttodd1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just got a PSE certificate back for a QE1b (and this is the first I had heard of the variety), which lead me to this forum thread - thanks everyone!

http://psestamp.com/Cert/01371917.html

Matt
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Posted 02/11/2020   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found a U.S. Scott 231 Columbian stamp with horizontal wove paper.
https://goscf.com/t/68080
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Posted 12/07/2023   5:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I do not envy Amos, calculating the number of originally produced stamps can be challenging but determining the survivability and/or current demand seems closer to a 'guess'.


Actually that above is easy as it has been done and published as:

B. I. A. Research Paper
# 6
Printing History of Special Delivery, Parcel Post,
Parcel Post Due, Special Handling, Registration,
Official Mail and Postal Savings Flat Plates

Of course the BIA become USSS and the hard copy you could buy from them is now only available from them on line as an e-document. If you want to see what sort of information it has, I post some of that information here: https://goscf.com/t/74586 ninth post down today. (sending you there to avoid double posting.) I also posted a new piece of special handling eye candy there.


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But the inconstancy in assigning major catalog numbers paired with the consistent desire to sell more books each year has resulted in an increasingly more complex catalogs.


I can agree more Don but there is the other side as well, the catalog publishers are loath to correct listing it seems. The saga of the QE4/QE4a as discussed in the thread I linked above about covers it. Coilman (hi, Bob) finally got Scott to makes some moves on the QE listings, one move than took decades for them to respond and correct. I am afraid that they, Amos, did not want to spend time to rework the section until they felt there was enough to add/change to be worth their staff's time.


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But I think the issue here is using highly specialized information as justification for new major catalog numbers in the standard hobby reference guides. Where is the limit to this game?...When experienced hobbyists are required to use certification services to accurately fill many of the spaces in their albums?...


Shockingly since you wrote that Don it as grown worse. Now you can't tell if a color you see is the correct color with spectral analysis of the underlying ink(s) used. When I can own and have on my stamp desk the tools to play with stamps, I believe it has gone too far. Plus the price on the highly advance scientific machines breaks most household budgets.


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When hobbyists shelves buckle under the weight of the catalogs and albums?
Digitizing and making available e-versions of book and documents as is being done at Stampsmarter helps fix that issue. Thank you Don, mml1942 as well as others, current and departed.


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When the hobby is so complex that newcomers run away in frustration?

Lastly this is a big issue, especially for new or returning to the hobby as an adult collector. Children as given help for most things because, well they are children and are learning and viewed as individuals who need some help to learn.

New adults or adults who collected as youth are not viewed the same. They are adults, they need to learn on their own, or who am I to teach an adult something? The most heartbreaking reason is I am too busy pursuing my hobby and having fun to help anyone else. There is a word missing, MENTOR. Any one of any age can be mentored; we each can grow if we are mentored and we each grow when we do mentor. Teachers teach children, Puffessors (did I accidentally misspell that word?) teach know it all youth, Mentor is the word to make it okay to teach adults, youth and kids. Mentors can be of any age, gender or origin. As one tries to navigate a new pathway on a new and hopefully interesting journey, it is nice, helpful and social to have someone point out the poison oak, poison sumac, poison ivy, harmful but wonderful snakes, hidden beauty when one knows where to look. With time and kind mentoring you get another to enjoy the path and journey. With luck they will continue on their own and perhaps even surpass your knowledge of the path as well as blaze a new one for others.

Mentor someone and help expand the hobby, mentor someone and help expand your joy. The goal is not to fill the album, or finish the exhibit, the goal is the journey. Since generally no one plans to die on the mountain (or hill) top, you still need to climb back down. That climb down too is a challenge and a time for mentoring. (here is your soapbox back Don, didn't really notice I was using it at first.
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