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Posted 02/17/2010   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tina to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
ok guys here is my problem im having a hard time with the older China stamps of mine,i just don't get it when im looking them up in the scotts catalog can someone help me out PLEASE

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Posted 02/17/2010   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
kim oh kim where are you? I need your help!!
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Posted 02/17/2010   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stanley Gibbons, may help narrow your search.
The 4th has me nobbled.

prc SG0780 (1945) T077 $05 on $1000 0n01c [1m0] orange.jpg
prc SG1079 (1948) T060 50c on 0.5c martyr [1m0] sepia opt.jpg
nth eastern province SG0007 (1946) T0003 03c brown .JPG
unknown
nth eastern province SG0009 (1946) T0072 10c green.JPG
prc SG0838 (1946) T072 $300 on 10c dr sun yat sen [1m0] green opt b.jpg

HTH
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Posted 02/17/2010   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to a colleague in Canada,
the fourth is
Stanley Gibbons
Japanese Occupation of China
Part 2 Mengkiang
(Inner Mongolia)
SG0076 1942 half cent on 1c martyr (Chen ying-shih)
HTH

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Posted 02/17/2010   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My approach to these was to make a key for the 'master' type, i.e. the Scott type without the overprint. The key identifies the stamp by type and Scott number and is followed by a list of all the "see also" footnotes for that type. I then simply look at each entry until I, hopefully, find the one I'm tracking or trying to identify. I know of no easy way to do it. I have had better luck with Scott's than the other specialized Chinese catalogs in most instances.s
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Posted 02/18/2010   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Tina. It's been a long day and a long drive. I've just got settled in after a final meeting. Now I just found out I have to drive several hours back home again because they have to redo my father-in-law's procedure. Poor guy, he has to go through it all again -- and he's not even at the major surgery stage yet.

Anyway, I'm thinking Tina probably doesn't have the SG catalog, so here is the translation into Scott (good work rod222 and friend):

Row 1 (left to right)
L = China 621(1945)
M = China 847(1948)
R = China, Northeastern Provinces 7(Apr1946)

Row 2 (left to right)
L = China, Meng Chiang (Inner Mongolia) 2N78(1942)
M = China, Northeastern Provinces 9(Apr1946)
R = China 686(1946-1947)

Please note, the stamps are China as in ROC, Republic of China -- not PRC, People's Republic of China.

I don't have a current Scott catalog with me (on the road), but these should all be low value stamps. Nice stamps to have, though, and your copies are clean with good colors.

Thanks for providing me a well-needed break, Tina!

k
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Posted 02/18/2010   12:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Tina,



About the Scott# 847: overprint on #421 OLIVE BLACK,CV0.20, looks yours is #847. SCOTT# 846 is overprinted on #312 BLACK BROWN,C/V60.00 .

Hope this helps.
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Posted 02/18/2010   12:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhh, ZhangCheng's reply is much nicer. Guess my wife is right, I'm lazy.

k
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Posted 02/18/2010   01:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Please note, the stamps are China as in ROC, Republic of China -- not PRC, People's Republic of China.

Of course, thanks for the correction
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Posted 02/18/2010   03:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Ahhh, ZhangCheng's reply is much nicer. Guess my wife is right, I'm lazy.

Haha Khj, I have the same comment from my wife.
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Edited by ZhangCheng - 02/18/2010 03:30 am
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Posted 02/18/2010   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello ZhengCheng.....Kim.....& Rod.....


I, and I'm sure Tina really appreciates your help with these overprints.


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Posted 02/18/2010   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anytime and anywhere, Tom.
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Posted 02/18/2010   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I hadn't tried to help, I wouldn't have discovered the Inner Mongolia issue, I had the devil's job finding it in Stanley Gibbons
It is a Chinese stamp, with Chinese Opt hiding under J for Japan
no hint of it, in the SG Index.
There's a Zen thing happening when you help others, invariably you help yourself
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Posted 02/18/2010   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much and as Kim said I do only have a scotts 2008 catalog but all this is still pretty new to me but I do try to look myself first this way I get practice,but these have stumped me I also have some more anyone want to id them? And yes Tom you hit the nail on the head I do very much so appreciate all that you guys and gals do for me,darn newbies
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Posted 02/18/2010   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ooops forgot the stamps

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Posted 02/18/2010   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, Tina. You will have to post a bigger scan for these failing eyes of mine. Maybe split it into 2 scans with higher resolution. A couple of the stamps have different printings that can only be discerned by a small difference in the stroke of one of the characters on the stamp.

The 2 right stamps in the bottom row are interesting, as they are China overprints on Manchurian stamps.

Someone else can give it a shot, but I will need bigger pics, please.
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