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France Parcel Post Stamps Are These In Scott Specialized Album?

 
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Posted 03/10/2020   11:21 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add KRelyea to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found these in a collection I was going through and haven't seen these often. I can find them in the Scott catalog but I don't have pages in my old Scott France album. Am I missing some pages?




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Posted 03/11/2020   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
all the French parcel post stamps in this link. (You can check by years Menu années.
https://www.timbres-de-france.com/c.../colis-1.php
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Posted 06/05/2022   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just noticed that the Parcel Post section (and I think the Franchise section) is missing from my France specialty pages. Extremely disappointed. This was after noticing the French Offices Abroad pages are also missing some spaces.
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Posted 06/05/2022   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
my old Scott France album

You might have to be more specific for a useful answer.
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Posted 06/05/2022   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
classic paper means check the copyright date on the front page. French parcel post stamps were not in the 1988 Scott catalog that I have kept and weren't in the France specialty album back then either. Don't know when they got added to either one.
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Posted 06/06/2022   12:33 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aren't these home-made, rather than Scott pages?
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Posted 06/06/2022   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased my Scott France Specialty pages 2 years ago and they aren't in there. Same purchase time for my Scott French Offices Abroad Specialty pages. That is what is so disappointing. Seems like a really easy add to make these complete. It's not very special to have spaces missing for item listed in the Scott catalog.
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Posted 06/06/2022   10:08 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are (like much else) no longer in the standard Yvert album, so it's unsurprising that Scott doesn't incude them.
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Posted 06/06/2022   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Am I missing some pages?


I think so !
Available on Steiner Pages..... (All 28 pages of them)

PS: Lovely stamps (envious)
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Posted 06/06/2022   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott 1969 standard does not list Parcel Post, but does list Franchise. Scott 2012 standard does list Parcel Post.

For French Offices Abroad, China, Kwangchowan, the Petain regular issues of 1941 are listed even though the note says not placed on sale. The other Vichy government stamps, regular, semi postal, and air post semi postal are not listed in 1969, but are listed in 2012.

The specialty pages reflect what is listed in 1969 and likely many years later. This is nonsense to me in that if it listed in the catalog as a major, then the specialty pages should have the spaces. It also makes no sense why the Petain regular issues that were Vichy government issued have spaces, but not the other Vichy government issues.

My specialty pages are copyrighted 2002 and 1996. The latter being French Offices Abroad.
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Posted 10/12/2022   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bcantin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just seeing this thread… I had been wondering about that myself. A couple observations I can share:

First, those pages were printed by whomever had that collection before. Scott (to the best of my knowledge) has never printed Specialty pages for the France parcel post stamps. You can tell they're homemade by the font (not the same as Scott's) and the fact that all the spaces have no information in them.

Second, those borders indicate the pages are from the Scott International album. Those are slightly smaller than Scott Specialty pages.

I am not sure when, but I believe that sometime in the last ten years or so, Scott added these stamps to their listings. They were originally considered to be "railway" stamps, more like locals than actual "postage" stamps - but for some reason added them to the listings. This would explain why Scott didn't include them with the stamp pages; they added them to the catalogue, but never got around to adding them to the pages.

I have mine mounted on blank pages in the back of my Scott Specialty album for France; I do collect Railway parcel stamps from different countries, so I have been familiar with these for a while. They are Cinderellas, though - since most are private carriers.

I hope this helps. I should write someone at Scott and ask about this… and I agree (as I usually do) with Rod, those are some really lovely stamps in that collection. They're all listed in the Scott Catalogue, and you'll notice that they're not cheap.
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Posted 10/12/2022   10:06 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I imagine that few US collectors actually collect these, hence the absence of leaves, of which there would be quite a lot - there are fourteen of the old, large Yvert leaves covering the French issues, seventeen MOC pages for the Algerian issues.
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Posted 10/12/2022   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Simple answer here is to asked someone to print you a set of those album pages from the most recent Steiner system and then offer a payment to cover cost ,I am sure if you want a special color or type of paper ,then the cost would be higher . I keep two paper hole punchers , one set for three ring binders and one for my Scott Internationals. Those Steiner pages fit well into the Internationals ,they are just 1/2 inch shorter or so . I fit a few pages in and have no problems with them .
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