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Cinderella Or Service- Pay Stamp?

 
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Posted 03/15/2020   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add torsjako to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello friends!
I have a mystery stamp .Hand cancelation on 2 SGR.(Silber Groschen?) and No.1 with a blue lion. Can it be a stamp for official paid services or a stamp for transport/import/export, postage due?

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Edited by torsjako - 03/15/2020 11:30 am

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Posted 03/15/2020   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello in my view:

1.- It's not a cinderella, as it has been handwritten cancelled. So, it must be a postage due stamp or cut square.

2.- On the Finish arms, the lion is always over a sword. Furhermore, if it was Finish the face value, should be in kopecks and I can read something like "Sgill", similar to "Skill"

3.- The stamp or cut square, looks very much like Norway's Facit # 6/10 stamps issued in 1863. On the stamp we can read "1101/64". In most Western European countries it would mean January 11th 1864 (it's cleary not from the 1960's!).

So in my view its a postage due Norway stamp or cut square from around 1864.





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Edited by Cursus - 03/15/2020 09:08 am
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Posted 03/15/2020   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess would be a German issue. SGR could be a Silbergroschen. Hessen has a Lion Rampant with horizontal red and white stripes.
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Edited by NSK - 03/15/2020 09:48 am
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Posted 03/15/2020   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with you, NSK.
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Posted 03/15/2020   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add torsjako to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replying. I could be one of the German states that issued it as postage due stamp, so I will check with my Deutchland Special catalogues....
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Posted 03/15/2020   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a revenue stamp from Hessen-Cassell (Kurhessen). The stamp is #6 in the Erler-Norton Old German States to 1945, Anhalt to Kurhessen Catalog, vol.3, 1991. It was issued in 1854. Cataloging this stamp is complicated because of differences in the papers, frames, and seal (lion). The catalog states, "The difficulty in collecting these stamps makes it necessary to give more detailed information." The information goes on for 4-5 pages.

Most simply, there are two paper types, normal and laid. The normal paper types vary in cat. value from 50c to $4.00. The laid paper types catalog between $6.00-$10.00.
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Posted 03/15/2020   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As bookbndrbob has said this is a revenue stamp from Hesse-Kassel.

This is a nice example of a revenue stamp from an independent country which never issued its own postage stamps.

Here are my examples:



They are also listed in Forbin.
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