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Netherlands
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Posted 04/11/2020   07:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SCADTA to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I discovered this cover in a collection. It was sent to Belgium Princess from Russian Prince Youssopov via Vladivostok to Belgium but it has a Paddington Registered Label is censored. Is there anybody to help me out on this strange cover?
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Posted 04/11/2020   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess would be a local stamp issued by the White Army used during the civil war in Russia during the first World War while the Allies held Vladivostok .
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Posted 04/11/2020   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks some what bogus to me.The stamp is an Austrian charity label circa WWI 1914.
They were really used on cover.Stationery types exists also.
The via URSS & militar censuur Vladivostok is bogus as well as the paddington label.
To bad it was manipulated because the stamp on cover is scarce.
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Edited by perf12 - 04/11/2020 08:39 am
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France
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Posted 04/11/2020   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Austrian poster stamp.
"For our soldiers in Bosnia"
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Edited by vayolene - 04/11/2020 08:40 am
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Posted 04/11/2020   08:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

This looks like a fantasy production:

- A label saying "For our Soldiers in Bosnia" in German.

- A London registration label overwritten in Dutch "Military Censorship Vladivostok"

- An instruction "Via URSS", the USSR having been founded in 1922.

- No official postmarks of any kind.
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Nigel
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Posted 04/11/2020   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it is not a poster stamp;but a charity label.it's not the same thing.
The listing you found it in is incorrect.
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Posted 04/11/2020   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess was wrong ,just a garbage cover ,thank God I don't collect covers .
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Posted 04/11/2020   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some new elements.Upon very close examination there appears a cds cancel. A is the date(some Numbers visible);B the inner part of the cancel.
The circular 3 bar cancels are perhaps of the mute type.
Austria did use mute or "dumb" cancels in 1914.These were used as a means of concealing the letters town of origin .Russian mute cancels abound,and more than 600 types are known.Again used to conceal the
letters origin.Whether some postal clerk just made up a temporary cork cancel in some remote place is an open question.
The Soldier Charity stqmp has a value of "2";I don't know what that would correspond to.


There is also another small roundish marking;but I can't tell if there is a numeral or something inside.I don't think it's a bar type.Below;

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Posted 04/11/2020   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Add the nice, dark c.d.s. which suddenly disappears when it reaches the envelope paper to the previously mentioned inconsistencies. Nothing adds up, therefore it is fantasy.
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Posted 04/12/2020   02:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SCADTA to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for responding. As I imagined it is probably fake. It comes from a very specialized collection of Bosnia and Austrian Area from that time. Therefore I asked your opinion. Great Community!
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Posted 04/12/2020   07:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SCADTA: Can you post a nice clear close up pic of the stamp ?
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