Berlin Brandenburg 30 PF, Plate A, B, C Or D?

Hi,

Withdrawn is right.

The specialized world is another story for general collectors. So thread like this are interesting and brings interest. So again like withdrawn wrote, do not stop.

Hornet

Cupram, please keep it up. I am doing something similar with a totally different stamp and a different country, and your stuff is extremely interesting even though we can not answer your question

Peter

Hi,
Thanks for the encouragement.
I have 2 more sheets, of 10 and 5pf from the Berlin Brandenburg series.
I will continue.
Thanks
George

In the years following WWII stamp quality in Germany was rather poor since it was rushed and equipment missing, especially in the SOZ.

As usual one has to distinguish between plate errors and print irregularities which both, in the years after WWII, are plenty to be found on German stamps. While plate errors are registered in the Michel catalogue, print irregularities are not, because they are not consistent. I do not know how Schantl and Renz deal with that.

If you have more types of sheets you can find constant flaws.
Michel does not record all the constant flaws.
What I have identified as constant flaws (and not recorded in Michel) is based on finding these flaws on the sales sites and finding them on my sheet in the indicated field.
An example for field 76:

@cupram,

You are certainly right, that Michel might not record all the print errors. For this the specialized catalogues are certainly the better choice

They are not print errors. They are plate errors and therefore they are constant and can be found on the same type of plate.
Each value in the series was printed on several types of plates (A, B, C, D / I-III) and often a constant flaw can be found on several types of plates or only on one (the case of the example). when I also managed to identify the type of plate on which my sheet was printed.

CUPRAM --- Keep up the good work ,I find it interesting to follow what your doing .

Thank you floortrader for encouragement.
Today the sheet with 10 pf stamp,Michel # 4Abwaz
A=perf K14
b=pale sienna color
wa=pink toned paper
z=gum with horizontal lines






I sent the two missing stamps to a collector of German stamps (more experienced than me) to evaluate the color. His answer was the color type "b" - pale sienna.
This stamp was printed in 3 colors:
a = brighr siena
b = pale siena
c = black brown
The quota in the catalog differs from 0.5 Euro (a), 160 Euro (b) to 500 Euro (c). Of course for stamps that are expertized.



Only one constant flaw registered in Michel : V (field 70)



In fields 13, 53, 54, 68, 72 and 96 are others flaws I have not identified yet as constant.

Hi,
Today the sheet with 5 pf stamp,Michel#1ABux
AB=rouletted 13
u=shiny, white, coated paper.
x=smooth, dull or shiny gum.



Constant flaws registered in Michel : III, IV, VIII, XIII, XIV, XVI, XVII, XIX and XXI.










In fields 11, 13, 17, 22, 24 and 99 are others constant flaws:






Other flaws I have not identified yet as constant in fields:43, 57, 62 and 95:

It is too late know, I will have some morre time tomorrow.

I can confirm your field 95 Dot in the C shape.

Context: A long time ago I bought some Berlin sheets and part sheets. Among them an incomplete 5 pfg sheet. Many of the stamps were damaged unfortunately. I am also not sure if they following stamps were from the same sheet.

Position 95: dot in the C as also shown by cupram.



Unfortunately SCF photo upload system does not cooperate anymore. More later

Left stamp, another dot in a c, a bit lower then the one seen on position 95.
Position unknown



First Kolom, Dot between T and B.




Positon 4, thick line besides upper claw and green dot to the left of it

Hi,
Thanks for confirming a constant flaw (field 95)
I didn't find it in cat.Michel (ed.2011) or on sales sites.
I checked again in cat.Michel (if I translated well) and found that the flaws in fields: 32, 71 and 86 appear only in plate D.
I think I managed to identify the plate D (???)
George




My stamp:

Thanks Johan Buvelot for posting the flaws.
I checked the 3 flaws and it is much easier when you know what you are looking for.
I found the first stamp in field 44, plate D.(but,slightly smaller color point).I think it is another constant flaw (I will search the field confirmation)
George