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Berlin Stamps Cv Evaluation

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Posted 05/06/2020   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nonu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Guys, I luckily found these stamps among the kiloware I got which was lying around for sometime. on the stampworld.com its showing pretty nice price of them. any inputs from the experts if its really the correct price. thanks
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Posted 05/06/2020   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nonu,

The Berlin overprints are frequently forged. I can't tell for sure from your scan but you might want to check the postmark closely.
I could be wrong but it seems to me that "Berlin" may be printed over the cancellation.

It's a series that continually gives me headaches!

Dan
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Posted 05/06/2020   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nonu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dan, I got the same concerns, if the overprint is over or under. any bright idea how to check this ? :D
i will try to get some zoomed images of the overprint and will upload as well
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Posted 05/06/2020   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nonu,

Your approach is probably the best. My red flag went up when I saw a 3 Mark overprint on a used stamp. If it's authentic and gets a BPP certification, it's valuable.
I'll be eager to see the scans!

Dan
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Posted 05/06/2020   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nonu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i am not sure even if its still clear to find exactly. but have a shot and see, I will try to get it checked by someone in Perth as well.


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Posted 05/06/2020   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nonu,

It's not definitive to me. Some places could be positive, other places are pretty questionable.
Maybe others here with sharper eyes will chime in. There are some real eagle-eyes here!
Keep us posted!

Dan
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Posted 05/07/2020   04:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nonu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found some more of these type stamps, though not that valued but still they are good n fascinating.

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Posted 05/07/2020   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add withdrawn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please ask here

philaseiten.de

You will get an answer you will find experts htere. It is in German though, but theyt will surely be responsive in English as well
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Posted 05/07/2020   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nonu,

I played around with your images in paint.net. I still couldn't tell with any certainty. Sometimes I see what I want to see in cases like this. I would look at one letter and think that the postmark went over the overprint. I'd look at another letter and compare it with the one I previously looked at and come to the opposite conclusion.
I hope the collector in Perth can do a better job than I can!

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Posted 05/07/2020   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
withdrawn,

Thanks for posting that link! I've bookmarked it. I just wish my German was better.

Dan
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Posted 05/07/2020   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add withdrawn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@nonu:

If you want I can post in the German forum and return the answer here, if one is received. I am German so, no problem for me. Let me know.
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Posted 05/07/2020   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nonu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guys thanks a lot for your effort and time.

@withdrawn please go ahead, I wouldnt mind at all :)

Thanks again to everyone
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Posted 05/08/2020   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add withdrawn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Dan

What I find recently is that a lacking command of a language is not necessarily an obstacle for written conversations.

My eye-opener was the contact to a Chineses dealer where I had questions for a stamp offer he had. I wrote in English to him and from the limited answer I got, I gathered that his English command was very limited. So I did not get the information I wanted.

I decided to re-write my questions with Google Translate in Mandarin. And to my surprise, the translation was apparently good enough (I have absolutely no clue about Mandarin). I received an answer in Mandarin and translated it in Google Translate and

1. My question was fully answered
2. The translation of his answer for me was fully comprehensible and very accurate.

Not wanting to market Google Translate here, but it really is helpful. Meantime, I do converse in French, Spanish, Russian, also Hungarian etc... and it works good enough.

Of course, if you want to scan a German forum on the headers of threads, then it is helful to have some German command otherwise it will be difficult to filter what may be of interest
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http://withdrawn-english.jimdo.com
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Posted 05/08/2020   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my non-expert opinion, the 80 pf looks pretty good, and the 3 M not. Notice the crispness of the overprint on the 80 pf, and the lack of the same on the 3 M overprint.
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Posted 05/08/2020   03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add withdrawn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@nanu

Assuming since you say this was picked from kiloware (the Berlin overprints), it is only a fragment of a letter and not an entire letter (if the latter please show the entire letter)
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Posted 05/08/2020   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nonu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@withdrawn unfortunately all were like this cut, but I will see if I can find some clue. I never thought that Berlin overprint could be such a pain in the ass. I was happy that I would sell this 3 mark n 40 for 100+$ and will buy some new lot of unchecked stamps. Its just such a fun to sort an unchecked lot.
I bought this lot in march when I had a job thanks to corona I dont have now so I cant spend my savings on stamps buying #128530; so I am looking for some stamps which can get me few bucks so that I can buy some more lots and keep the fun going,#128513;
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