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Quick Question - When Did The PF Start Calling Out NH

 
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Posted 09/01/2020   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlsny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
As I understand it, older certs from the PF would just say OG for never hinged stamps and would say "OG, previously hinged" if not NH. When did that practice change? Thanks!
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Posted 09/01/2020   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I want to say the late 90's or early 2000's.
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Posted 09/02/2020   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure. I have a NH Scott 227 or 259 that as I recall was described as unused Og and the PF cert reads "genuine.". This would have been in the early to mid 1990's so I'm thinking later than that. I would have bought a stamp like that while I was still in Philadelphia—ie pre 1997.
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Posted 09/02/2020   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If my memory serves me correctly, the term previously hinged was introduced with certificate 158,000 and never hinged was implied if the stamp was described as OG with no qualifications. Starting with certificate 275,000 it was announced that the term Never Hinged would be used in place of the implied system. I am not sure about the actual first certificate number with the term Never Hinged as PFSearch is not cooperating this morning.
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Posted 09/02/2020   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bill, so before ~158,000 if a cert just said OG, you could not be sure if it was previously hinged or never hinged? I just bought one with a cert around 137,000 that looks and was sold as NH. But the cert just says OG. Will people not take that to mean NH? It's old, so I suppose a new one would be nice, but I'd just like to understand where I'm starting from. Thanks.
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Posted 09/02/2020   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Certificates prior to 158,000 only comment on whether or not it has original gum and does not imply never hinging. They decided to add "Previously Hinged" to the certificate to make their opinions clearer and less subject to manipulation. This was done at the suggestion of Herbert Bloch who was Chairman of the Expert Committee at that time. The use of the term "Never Hinged" was at my suggestion.
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Posted 09/02/2020   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. Thank you.
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