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Posted 03/17/2010   12:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Tonya to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know FDC means first day cover....but does FDC used mean that it is still on an envelope or card? Or does it just have to have the correct cancel date on the stamp its self?

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Posted 03/17/2010   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No such thing as a stupid question Tonya
How can the desire to learn be anything but admirable.?

FDC=First Day Cover, I guess on a singleton stamp
you may interpret the Acronym as "First Day cancel"

I think for our family here, when quoted would mean an entire cover.
but I could be wrong.

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Posted 03/17/2010   01:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps off the FDC are known as having an FDI cancel - First Day of Issue.

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Posted 03/17/2010   02:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
See..I learned something Thanks.

Whilst on the subject there are other issues in the FDC family
Some I have run across ...
Last day cover LDC
Last Day of TPO cover (travelling post office)
First day Issue of tagging cover.
Earliest known date cover.
any more?

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Posted 03/17/2010   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
EKU - Earliest known Use (can be on or off cover)
Maximum Card - Similar to a cover in that it has the stamp and cancel. But it is on card stock Approx. 6 x 8
FDC Program - Normally they have the stamp and First Day Cancel.
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Posted 03/17/2010   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tonya......

FDC refers to covers.......a single stamp with a first day cancel....is just that, a single with a first day cancel.
FDC's that are unaddressed are sometimes refered to as unused.......with an addressed, used.
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Posted 03/17/2010   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


See Tonya, you learned something. So, it wasn't a stupid question. I once heard the expression, 'the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked'.

Cheers

Bujutsu
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Posted 03/02/2014   10:11 am  Show Profile Check DC3's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DC3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tonya, I would say that the most accepted meaning of FDC is First Day Cover (Envelope), even if one could say that a book has a front cover and a back cover.
Another one could say that a book has only one cover, comprising the front and the back.
Many things can be "postcardized", if you REALLY want. You can take an envelope and glue somehow the two walls, thus making it a "postcard", and even mail it as such. You can cut the front cover (or the back cover) from a book, and trim it to qualify as a "postcard", and further you can make a non-traditional maxicard with it.
So, a FDC is generally not meant as a First Day Card (or Cancel). A maximum card may have a 1)First Day of Issue cancellation/postmark (pictorial or not), or 2)another pictorial postmark, or 3)a simple, regular day cancellation. Preferably concordant with the stamp and postcard.
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Posted 03/02/2014   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add another component to First Day Covers (in the US anyway) since current policy allows for most US Post Offices to offer new issues for sale on the actual "first day of issue" (FDOI) a number of collectors may opt to have the new stamps cancelled at their local post office, either by handstamp at the post office window or by addressing the cover to themselves and placing them in a mailbox for delivery to you or anyone you select (the latter way means the stamp and cover will show legitimate postal use). This is known as an "unofficial" first day cover, meaning that the cover is postmarked on the first day of issue, but not at the official first day city as designated by the US Postal Service. Some like to collect these items as a curiosity or because it brings the postmark and the stamp together on the actual first day of issue.
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Posted 03/02/2014   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
notare - not quite. An FDC is a cover cancelled on first day of issue at any post office in the country of issue with any stamps you wish on the cover as long as one of them is the stamp issued on that date.
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Posted 03/02/2014   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After I posted earlier today, I just realized we're all responding to a FOUR YEAR OLD thread!
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Posted 03/02/2014   11:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guess what? It's four years old.
Tom
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Posted 03/02/2014   1:21 pm  Show Profile Check DC3's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DC3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course that it's four years old.
To me, the merit of a subject of discussion depends on the interest of the audience (if any), regardless of when it was started.
"Latest topics" should not be "the only topics". Everybody will decide if there's still personal interest in a thread, or not
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Posted 03/03/2014   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a philatelic term for a FDC that was prepared by a business and mailed to its customers?

I find some of those interesting, but it is difficult to search for them online with terms like "business" or "commercial" as these bring up so much junk.

Don
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Posted 03/03/2014   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
DonSellos, Greetings:

John M Hotchner, writing in Linn's, used the term "commercial first day covers" in:

http://www.linns.com/news/us-stamps...in-the-1960s

I found the one in my collection by thumbing thru a bargain box.

There are lots of FDC dealers, but requesting a specialty item that makes them invest time & effort will impact the price.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 03/03/2014   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ikeyPikey:

Thanks for the reply. I'm not much of a FDC collector, but I do like some of the "commercial" ones mailed out. The article link was interesting. Sounds like not many people save them or many collectors seek them out.

I. coincidentally, just purchased one prepared by Stamps Magazine for the 1964 Worlds Fair stamp and mailed to its subscribers. It's earmarked for inclusion in my philatelic publications cover collection.

Calling these FDC "commercial" makes sense, but using that as a search term, say on ebay, brings up dozens of the Commercial Aviation FDC. Guess, I'll just have to be especially watchful for these as they appear in a variety of locations.

Don
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