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Netherlands Stamp 1869

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Posted 02/01/2021   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SSlava to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does this stamp have a performance of L14? or is the program wrong?

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Posted 02/01/2021   08:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Am I correct in understanding that "brand" = "marka," i.e., stamp and performance is perforation.

The 1/2 cent has the following perforation varieties:
1869-1873: line 14, small holes, thick paper
1870-1875: comb 13 1/4, small holes, thin paper
1875-1876: comb 13 1/4, large holes

It also exist without perforation.

The 1/2 cent does not exist with comb 13 1/4, small holes, thick paper (1869-1873), as do some other face values from this set.

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Edited by NSK - 02/01/2021 08:45 am
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Posted 02/01/2021   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SSlava to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the program, perhaps, does not quite correctly show the result.

Stamp have a linear perforation or comb?
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Edited by SSlava - 02/01/2021 08:50 am
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Posted 02/01/2021   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SSlava to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The paper seems not to be thin (there are stamp that clearly have thinner paper). And so hard to say anything)).
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Posted 02/01/2021   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perf 14 has line perforation

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The last line of NSK's post should read: It does exist

Postmark is most probably Dirksland.
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Posted 02/01/2021   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SSlava to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The 1/2 cent does not exist with comb 13 1/4, small holes, thick paper (1869-1873), as do some other face values from this set.


Most likely the program meant perforation 14.
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Posted 02/01/2021   09:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SSlava to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The perf 14 has line perforation

Peter


If I understand correctly, this stamp has a perforation L14?
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The last line of NSK's post should read: It does exist

Postmark is most probably Dirksland.


All right, thank you. So what kind of perforations do you think are here?
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Posted 02/01/2021   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a line perforation with small holes. That exists in gauge 14. This seems to be in line with your measurement.


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The last line of NSK's post should read: It does exist


I gave up collecting "Netherlands" when they privatised PTT Post. My NVPH specialised is outdated (1988). That one says it does not exist.
It might be the case it popped up after 100 years.


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If I understand correctly, this stamp has a perforation L14?


As I wrote "line 14, small holes." There is a good chance L14 stands for line-perforated gauge 14.
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Edited by NSK - 02/01/2021 09:24 am
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Posted 02/01/2021   09:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SSlava to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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As I wrote "line 14, small holes." There is a good chance L14 stands for line-perforated gauge 14.


All right, thank you for your help!
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Posted 02/01/2021   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not possible to verify a perforation without having the stamp in front of you.

Part of the Dutch catalogue.

Lijntanding means Line perforation. Kamtanding means Comb perforation.

KL.G means small holes. Gr.G means larger holes.

Dik papier means thick paper. Dun papier means thin paper




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Posted 02/01/2021   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed, 13B has been added since 1988.
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And so this is what version? 13a, 13b or other? There are only 2 different varieties of this stamp in the Michel catalog. And then where do so many varieties come from))?

So what's the perforation? You need a toothsemer?
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Posted 02/01/2021   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SSlava, you need to determine the perforation yourself. It is probably 13.25, but you need a good perforation gauge to check it.
There are four (4) known perforation varieties of this stamp and going into it this deep the Michel catalog is of no use here.
Start by getting a good perforation gauge,


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These numbers come from the NVPH catalogue. It is the catalogue published by the Dutch Association of Philatelic Dealers. Dutch collectors tend to use that catalogue. Michel, like Scott, Yvert & Tellier and Stanley Gibbons publish international catalogues that are less specialised.

The A-numbers are the only numbers that have a perforation gauge 14. This is a line perforation and the stamps are on thick paper. The note below the A-numbers mentions the 1/2 and 2 1/2 cent (there has been a report of 2 cent) exist on thin paper and must come from sheets of 200 listed as C-numbers and are accidental varieties.
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